EU latest. 100bn! Seriously???

Given our annual net contribution is around £8.5 bn with the current exchange rate that equates to us making 10 years.... 10 YEARS!! NET contributions after leaving. Possibly because Germany and UK are currently the only net contributors so many of their future federalisation aspirations will be scuppered without our money. P.S. The above figure also includes farm subsidies to France and subsidies to Poland.

And those of you advocating 'remain' still want to stay in the EU?

Regarding no discussion about trade until leave settlement read article 50. Junckers is wrong and the one who is deluded. Article 50 clearly states future relationships should be part of the discussion for any member state leaving the EU. "Galaxies apart" is indeed true but that is because, whilst May might be on a different planet, Junckers and Tusk are totally lost in space!!

The sooner we leave this corrupt organisation the better!

 

If we have made the commitment to pay this money then we should pay it (Governments of all colours have made these commitments). Of course not being in the EU we won't see any benefits from it, unless the EU continues to fund local projects for the next 10 years. In which case we get most of it back.

The organisation is no more corrupt than our own government. I really don't see how replacing one corrupt organisation by increasing the power of another equally undemocratic and corrupt one will make the slightest difference to people's lives.

 

Only a 100bn ? Surely it should 4 or 500 ? maybe a trillion ?

Financial Times, lol.

 

Are the EU going continue to pay the the project in this area that they are committed to

 

Sir Steve Houghton. Needs to be in Brussels on his knees Begging for them to do so

 

The EU budget was agreed until 2020, including our contributions. If you believe the £350m/week, then that comes it at ~£55b pounds during that period. That is now ~65b Euro and doesn't include the cost of moving the EU bodies (EMA and the finance one) out of the UK and into the EU. 100b Euro does sound high but seeing as we apparently owe for monies that have already been spent and we have yet to pay, or paid in bonds, then that could be around the ballpark cost of leaving. Not sure if that figure also includes the pension liabilities for the UK staff employed by the EU either.

I don't think anyone believes that we will pay that much, but our government will maintain the undisclosed line.

 

I can't see why anyone is shocked. We agreed funding until 2020 and gladly took the money (mostly upfront) for projects that benefitted the country. How can we then say no we aren't paying you!

The actual figures will need battening down of course and I'm sure the government of the day will make that happen.

 

They may try to get all and Sundry to believe they will or even have, but that won't happen. But it won't matter to this lot coz they'll still be here in 2022 at least. Just wish this Country could see through it.

 

Pulling the numbers out of thin air like Diane Abbott.

 

Because you can vote May out in a month's time, you can't vote Juncker out, even though he's drunk, belligerant and useless.

 

You can vote Juncker out. You vote for your MEP and they vote for or against Juncker. He has already survived at least one vote of no-confidence since he was elected by MEPs in 2014. His term ends in 2019 (I think) and there will be a vote for his successor. To get the position the candidates have to campaign, including TV debates broadcast in most EU countries.

Just because we (as a country) haven't engaged or understood the workings of the EU parliament does not mean that his position is not democratic.In fact, with the proportional representation used in the UK, his position is probably more democratic than our own parliament.

 

Early days in the negotiations , every time we say we are paying nowt they up their price a few billion . We'll end up somewhere in the middle . There's EU assets that we part own, property / land , investments to be divided up yet I'd say we should be finishing the negotiations in 10 years time

 

Reading the German press Merkel would like to get shut of him but there's no mechanism no matter how incompetent he is , the only thing that might do it is he's embroiled in a massive Scandal in Luxembourg that might fetch him down .

 

I see you ignore my second point re the discussion and agreement on before discussing terms of future trade, in other words " (we) must pay up front before discussions can start as to what we will get post leave" in contravention of the wording of Article 50.

Glad you are not leading negotiations. I see no mention of the fact that Junckers has also said we get no share of the, not inconsiderable, assets that we actually have a major share of having been the main (with Germany) net contributors to even discounting property which we may or may not have paid for when we joined (although I cannot see that argument being true given that the main headquarters are new)

Still if you blindly support the EU over your own country's interests that is entirely up to you. However, you are in a small minority on that one.

 

Not as wonderfully democratic as you are suggesting ....according to this Guardian article

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/27/eu-democratic-bandwagon-juncker-president-wanted

 

Leave party politics aside for once. Also as regards your nonsense about paying what is due.... Until March 2019 at the earliest we are still in the EU and still paying contributions. Had Brexit not happened we would be paying the financial commitments we agreed to as part of the 2014-2020 EU budget cycle anyway. If we do leave in 2019 we will therefore have already paid the lion's share of any financial obligations. We need only pay any additional monies to cover the final year. So again how did they come up with an additional 100bn euro settlement figure.

Once again... 100bn euro equates to a further 10 years net contribution AFTER we have left. Do you actually agree with the EU on this over your own government's position? Oh dear! It is not really worth debating with you then is it?

 

I don't fully understand the workings of the EU budget etc but I am not stupid thank you very much. I expect that these figures being bandied round are an effort to establish a bargaining position and will be subject to the bargaining (negotiating) process. Nobody believes for one moment that we will end up paying 100bn Euros.

As far as the Barnsley area is concerned, it has received a lot of funding from Europe and anyone who thinks that a British Tory (or even Labour) Government will do more for Barnsley is sadly deluded. As far as I can see the 68% who voted out are Turkeys voting for Christmas.

 

How can we vote May out then? We have no credible opposition and our unfair and outdated first past the post voting system effectively blocks representation for MILLIONS of British voters leaving us with the stark choice of Tory vs Labour.

Oh and she's a liar ("we won't call an early election") and was possibly the most incompetent Home Secretary in living memory.

 

If (as she has stated previously) the vote to Leave was about immigration, then it was as a direct result of her failure in her previous job. And now she wants us to trust her to lead us into a bright future.

 

We can vote May out every five years, or earlier if she calls an early GE like she has or loses a vote of no confidence. Juncker et al are voted in every five years unless they lose a vote of no confidence.

Not much practical difference.