even if we stay up, the squad assembled is garbage

so it would mean major surgery yet again. needing 5 months getting to know each other.
suppose it doesn't matter, we're as good as down now, with this clown

 

I don't think it is

I think we've a squad more than capable of mid table (if you include Hammill) so with just 2-3 signings I think we'd do very well... if we achieved the potential rather than underachieving grossly like this season.

That's why I'm really annoyed, because this squad could and should be in mid table.

Wouldn't swap the group of players for Donny's, Plymouth's, Coventry's etc etc who are all above us.

 

Im with you on that mate nt

 

Yet again you are way off with a comment like that

agree with Journo, there is the basis of a very decent Championship side at Oakwell, with a fit again Hume and another striker, plus a couple of 6'4 brickshit house players for midfield and a different management team we'd be 14th or 13th i reackon

As mentioned, i wouldn't swap Donny, Plymouth, Blackpool squads for our lads

There is something going wrong and it ain't the players effort or ability

 

If we had a load of crap players and had spent no money

And the players we had were playing at the best they could, I wouldn't be so angry.

It's because we're grossly underachieving with the players we have.

I believe this is largely down to a lack of belief that Simon has in the players (as I explained in a post yesterday) - which is strange as he signed them.

Too much worrying about other teams - when most of them are rubbish.

 

Don't agree

We have some decent Championship standard players, we can play some excellent football - just don't score when we are on top.

 

Didn't Davey say sometime back in August...

something along the lines of:</p>

&quot;I finally have a squad here that is capable of competing in this division&quot;</p>

I presume when he said that, he didn't mean competing with the bottom 3.</p>

If you look at what is arguably our best 11:</p>

Muller/Steele</p>

Bobby
Foster
Moore
Kozluk</p>

JCR
Andranik/Anderson
Colace
Hammill/Devaney</p>

Boggy
Mifsud/Hume
</p>

Under the right guidance, and injury free, that team should be mid table at least. Anyone with half a brain should be able to see that. Ok, we have had misfortune with Hume missing the majority of the season, and Hammill hasn't been here very long, but still, its a 14th/15th position team at the very least.</p>

Basically, the club has 1 option. Sack Davey in the summer, and replace him with a manager who has an eye for a lower league player, with a history of producing the best from a squad he has adopted. I think at the time Gudjon was unfairly dismissed. Look at the job he is doing with Crewe! They were dead and buried when he came in. Alternatively, as i mentioned yesterday, the only other manager i can think of at the minute with a similar style is Nigel Adkins at Scnuthorpe. Took over Laws' squad, and has made the club millions by signing youth from lower leagues, and making them a success.</p>

As for transfers (with a new man in charge, of course) you then have 3 options:</p>

1) Throw money at it. Spend 5 million quid on 3/4 quality players (provided we can attract them), and have a go at it.
2) Cheap and cheerful from Peru and the like. We've tried this, and it doesn't work.
3) Free transfers and good use of the loan system. Just look at Blackpool, 16/17 loan signings in a season. On short term deals. Not like us. Making a commitment to signing Rigters for a full season off the back of him being out for 12 months with a serious injury. Why the hell couldn't we have just said 'we'll take him for 3 months, and see how he gets on'? Its not rocket science.</p>

So, ultimately, for me, we've shot ourselves in the foot. a) we've backed the wrong manager, who has wasted millions of &pound;&pound;&pound;&pound; on 3rd rate rubbish from abroad. b) when we have spent wisely (Colace and Boggy come to mind), we don't play them often enough, in their right positions. Basically, pick a formation, and sign players to fit it. I wouldn't mind the 3 central midfielders, if he actually played 3 central midfielders. JCR is never a central midfielder.</p>

I've gone on a bit there... so i'll stop. DAVEY OUT!
</p>

 

I Think We Have A Decent Squad

Just got the wrong person in charge of motivating them and playing them to their strengths.

 

We'll see how good others rate the squad if we're relegated cos our Championship calabre players will be off. I would imagine we'd only lose 3 - Foster, Kozluk & JCR. Hume will have to prove his fitness before anyone would take him. The rest... League 1 will suit em.

 

Some of the players are much better quality than when we first got promoted, da silva, kozluk, jcr, hume before assault, others are up to personal opinon but they dont want to play for this ******.

 

Sorry don't agree

if we had a couple of haf decent forwards with even an average conversion rate we would be well safe by now

 

Oh and forgot

a manager who concentrated on our strengths and let the opposition worry about us rather than about not losing

 

1 decent keeper, 1 overated

an average right back who's going to win player of the year( says it all)
1 decent centre half, don't get me stared on moore.
no left back or left footed players, although kozzie could be a decent right back.
jcr ruined by the welsh buffoon, anderson hit and miss, colace best signing by a mile. andranik is slower than rigters! and as good
no striker can score consistant enough ( hume excepted, not seen enough)
then there's leon, oddjob, rigters, van hobbit.!!!!!!
and the academy lads can't get on the bench, i'm utterly demoralised

 

It suits the "anti-Davey mob" to say we have a good squad

Otherwise, it becomes hard to criticise his tactics.

Quite a few on here think that (given the same group of players), THEY could do a much better job...

 

RE: It suits the "anti-Davey mob" to say we have a good squad

not completely as they are then giving him credit for making astute signings

 

No it doesn't

If anything if proves Simon Davey has a good eye for bringing in decent players for relatively small expenditure, which muddies the water somewhat when criticising the manager. Also, there's no difficulty whatsoever in criticising the manager's tactics and results. They usually speak for themselves.The "anti-Davey mob" have a right to express their opinions just as much as anyone else.

 

Yep, me and Dad always say when we chat about it

That he does find good players (as shown by performances by these players in somke games), but only seems to get the best of them sporadically, or if as individuals, not as a team.

Yes you can't blame Davey for goals like that 3rd one on Saturday, but if our players are making more silly errors than other teams and missing more chances, there must be a reason for it.

 

Inconsistency

is often the sign of an average player.

 

RE: No it doesn't

Davey's "success rate" isn't that good, he's had far more flops than decent finds with his foreign legion.

 

Most of the inconsistent performances

Are when they're played in the wrong position though.

JCR - good on the wing, brilliant at times... Sheff Wed home, Donny home for example. Hopeless bar maybe one or two games in the centre.

Boggy - looks great up front, rubbish on the wing.