Exciting times...... but are we looking at another car crash in January 2020 ???

...... great to see all these young players signIng - but has anyone else noticed they are all (?) signing 3 year deals.

So if the contracts are same as the old contracts - (are they?) - what if most of these players are good signings and Hecky wants to keep them all at the club - and Hecky finally gets these players working as a good team - a team that's pushing at the top end of the Championship - then what happens in January 2020 when all the 1st team players contracts are up for renewal in 6 months time???

Are we looking at another fire sale ???

Hecky has said that the club is working towards never seeing the 01/17 scenario happen again - so can we have some answers from the club on how they plan to avoid this ???

I don't think I could bare another 01/17.

 

Please stop.

 

They'll be sold in June 2019. Get preparing your "the club has no plan" posts now.

 

If we are flying in 2 years, as you describe, then it must be that this group are flying individually too. Obvious differences are that 2 years in they will not walk away for nowt, as they have done recently. OR if an offer does come in, the fact they still have time remaining on their contract will be reflected in the offer / sale price.

A win/win. The plan keeps building as is, but with the club in a far better negotiating position than ever regarding contract negotiation or sales.

Not really rocket science.

 

Until we can afford to pay higher wages we will always be in this situation.

One way to pay higher wages is to create a reserve by selling on good young players.

And does the club need to be telling the world of their plans? No.

If you want answers then buy the club.

 

unreal, cant really find anything to berate the club with at the moment so i'll look 3 years into the future to complain, dr who has his t.a.r.d.i.s. and we have a re t.a.r.d.i.s. you wonder why people carnt be bothered with the board anymore

 

What tha on abart - the situation is current - Hecky has said over the last few weeks that things have to change.
I'm asking - what has changed right NOW to prevent 01/17 happening again ???

I got a shed load of 'shut thi marth we will be orr reight; we are only a point off the playoffs' comments back in January when I was warning things were turning sour.
And they did !!!

 

You've got answers and opinions above ^ You could respond?

 

'Another car crash'...... When was the last one we had?

 

NO.
What you are describing is more or less what happened in the past.
Hecky said - there had to be a change.

So what is that change?

I haven't heard anything from the club.
Even if it is just to say - a new strategy has been adopted that will avoid another 01/17 scenario.

 

01/17

 

We've committed to 3-year deals, which many were shouting for. That's a change.
We are in a better negotiating position. That's a change. For the better.
We have brought in better calibre players. And more of them.

I really don't see what there is to be on a downer about at the moment.

 

We've got a new CEO, ergo there will be a new strategy. You don't half look silly sometimes.

 

The huge successes will be sold for good money in either January or June 2018 (Hourihane, Mawson types) and another batch bought in to replace them. The good ones will be sold a year later (Roberts, Scowen, Watkins types) and another new batch bought in. Eventually it will be staggered so that we only lose 2 or 3 each transfer window rather than 6 or 7

 

- We have at least 7 players signing 3 years deals in 2017/18.
- We sign at least another 5 players on 3 year deals in 2018/19.
- By the summer of 2019/2020 we have 7 players with 1 year left on their contract and 5 players with 2 years on their contract.
- If say 4 of the 7 players from the 'class of 2017/18' dont want to sign new deals we sell them.
- That leave 3 players who have now signed new contracts. Along with 5 players with still 2 years on their contract. (basically still a strong nucleus of a first team).

This is how I expect the club now to proceed. 5/6 signings on 3 year deals each summer and selling anybody with 1 year left on the contract who doesn't want to extend. That should ensure no fire sales like 01/17.

The Plan™ - Phase 2 has started.

 

Really i must have missed it, and heres me thinking we had a great season last season and finished in a good place in the league. in fact we won Forrest 2nd Jan, and won Leeds in a great game and another derby win away at Rotherham. Apart from the usual football ins and outs I must have missed something if there was a car crash.

 

Instead of your constant sniping at the club, which you profess to follow, why not give us the benefit of your undoubted finances and wisdom.
Why not tell us, O great one of YOUR master plan to make everything not only better, but the best.
Like most right minded folk on here, I for one am sick to the back teeth of your constant criticism of anything the club does.
We are Barnsley, not Barcelona.
We have our saviour, but he's not a billionaire ready to throw stupid money at trying to buy promotion.
For your information there are 24 teams in this league and if everybody had the attitude to just chuck money at it, then 21 of them will end up disappointed (3 of them particularly so)
Why not, just for once say the club are trying to improve the situation by signing players on three year deals rather than two.
Why not say that the model being used to identify and sign young hungry players is better than the old idea of signing older players at the end of their careers just looking for a final pay check, and hellfire we've seen enough of those over the years.
Sure, some things could be better, but ruddy hell they could sure be a lot worse.
Rant over.

 

If the new squad set off flying and are round the tp 6 then we will sell in January 2018. The january transfer window is feeding time for the sharks; if big clubs want our players, they will just take them. It doesnt matter what contracts the players are on, it just means we might get a really decent chunk of money if they go in the 1st year. Sign of the times im afraid.

 

The Club obviously has a pay structure and they look as though they are not prepared to
break it. If you pay one player a lot more than another you risk creating serious disharmony in the changing room.

I relate what is happening at Barnsley FC with my own working career. I had seven jobs over a period of
fifty three years. I accepted each appointment knowing what my roles and responsibilities were and how
much I would be paid for the job undertaken. Knowing what everyone was paid there was little purpose
in going in to see the boss in six of my jobs and even though at the time I enjoyed what I was doing, increased
responsibilities in my private life meant I needed more money and so I had to reluctantly move on.

In my last job I had the responsibility for passing on most of what I had learned to graduates to assist with
what we were doing for our Organisation. I trained three of them and invested a lot of time and effort in their
development. Two were both worth more money but there was a rigid pay scale in place.
One left to take up a job with Arla Foods on around £8 k more we could pay him and the other is now a Risk
Manager for Royal Bank of Scotland at Canary Wharf. I wouldn't like to guess how much more he's earning now.

My last trainee who was excellent is still there. He will be earning a reasonable salary but now he's married and starting a family there might come a time when he has to move on.
Hourihane , Winnowt, Scowen, Watkins and Roberts were like those trainees.
They came in willing to learn and were probably earning a better salary than they were at their previous Club otherwise
they wouldn't have joined us.

When it got to the time that their skills were recognised by suitors who could pay more than us, they must have known we
wouldn't/ couldn't match their demands and so reluctantly they have had to move on.

It is what it is and sadly if the class of 2017 improve to the point that bigger clubs will approach us and pay them more sadly they too will in all probability move on. I suppose the only consolation is that every other Club undergoes similar changes
from time to time.

 

Footballers are not "for life". Some are not even here for Christmas. Why do you (and you are not the only one) keep going on about what will happen several months down the road, or (in this case) several years? Do you really get no pleasure at all in watching BFC? Actually.....do you ever go to matches?

Players come, players go. We hope they go for profit but some don't. Conversely, we steal players from other clubs for low fees or free transfers. What bit of normal life at a football club are you having trouble understanding? The Bobby Hassells of this world are once in a blue moon. Most players ply their trade for a year or two and then move on. No amount of sniping at the club's owner and staff will change that.