What do people really expect? Read some quiet sensible points over last few weeks and then some absolutely stupid ones. Last seasons side for example, not much depth at all and towards the end we were panicking after a few injuries. Woodrow a direct replacement of Bradshaw using that money. Bahre on loan. Pretty much same side that came down the year before. I think stendels arrival galvanised the club and brought fans back on side due to his personality. Absolutely incredible job and we managed to get back up. Then the summer. What as Barnsley fans did we expect. Bristol went out and bought a centre half for 8m, Luton went out and brought in experienced players such as butterfield which we all questioned. Should we have thrown money that we’ve not actually got at it and risked the future of the club? Would we have been happy with likes or butterfield and cranie arriving? Looking at the signings we’ve made this summer I think i think there’s a lot of potential there, we’ve had good results against Fulham, wba and Swansea, there’s definitely a decent team in there in my opinion but in a year or two maybe. The problem is in terms of the championship were a small club. A small northern club trying to compete with big sides in this division and places were players might find more attractive such as London. The summer outgoings just prove that, Davies, rather go be 2nd 3rd choice at stoke. Moore asking to leave to join Wigan. Lindsay and Pinnock, both joining sides who’ve aspirations of having a go at it this year. Imagine the money they’re on, especially with 12 months contract left and paying a lesser fee. The people saying we should’ve kept them anyway, absolutely nonsense. We’re a proud bunch, why would we want someone wearing the badge who’s not committed, not for me that. I’ve rambled on enough so I’ll go back to my original question, what do we expect? Do you want chansiri style spending going for it? Should we be at least trying the loan market?
I expect common sense. I expect stupid decisions to have negative consequences. I expect decency and truth. I expect communication and honesty. I expect effort. I expect us to lose, while trying. I expect us to try to compete. I expect promises to be honoured. I expect battling, passing football whoever we have. I expect us to be underdogs. I'd have had Cranie in a heartbeat. Lets roll back. How much money have we spent on wages, agents fees and transfer fees on 12 new signings? And when you bundle that all up together, what could we have done differently with it? Our squad is huge. Every week there are people with first team football under their belts not getting in the matchday squad. So imagine if we'd bought half as many players, spending double what we did, but the net effect being the same as buying 12.. what effect would that have had on the first team?
People that don’t agree with you about football are not stupid and you are not intelligent for your opinions.
Quiet day at work. I agree with what your saying I think we should’ve broke bank for 2 centre half’s more than anything but we were short last year in other areas as well. Intelligent reply
I expect that my club, which has a proud history of competing in the second tier of English football for the majority of it's life arrange it's affairs in such a way that we compete with the other clubs in that division. We have decent crowds with the potential for bigger ones in the right circumstances (remember how the ground was largely sold out in the Premier League?). We are reportedly debt-free and have owners who are reputedly of great wealth. How did they acquire that wealth? Through shrewd business dealings and utilising the resources at their disposal, I'd guess. To see us standing, cap in hand, accepting that we can no longer aim to be competitive in this league is a total surrender. If wage levels are higher in the Championship then we must pay them. To constantly see something being built and then to have it sold on the cheap while yet another promising young coach becomes disillusioned is no way to carry on. Something must be done or fans will vote with their feet, as is becoming rapidly apparent from reading the comments of even the most diehard of supporters on here. Let's not just wave the white flag.
So the plan is to have the owner of the club who has no emotional attachment to it to invest his personal wealth in the hopes of us reaching the promised land and recouping his money where at that point we’ll sell out oakwell every week with players on 50k a week and be self sufficient. That’s sorted then, least we’ve got a proper plan now
I didn't suggest any of that. The average wage of Championship players is nowhere near 50k a week. Owners rarely invest their own wealth. They employ their status to secure investment funding based on the assets and potential future revenue stream of their business, which let's not forget, the current owners promised to increase. If we cannot use the collective business acumen of the directors and senior officers of the club to craft a model which allows us to compete in this league where we have spent most of our history then we have no club worthy of speaking of.
Why take a valid reasoned point, add hyperbolic rubbish that pushes it to a ridiculous extreme and then re-present it as if the poster had offered that as a true standpoint? Some might say you're being ridiculous to prevent an opposing reasoned view to be heard and put as an alternative to self imposed limiting decision making.
I just think it’s not realistic. I don’t know much about business so I’ll not pretend I do but I just can’t see where further investment can come from. Big sponsor we all thought this year and it’s one from down the road, and again I don’t know but it doesn’t seem Very lucrative. Personally I think owner has to invest a little each year to build us then increase attendances. there’s a lot historically better clubs then us doing worse.
New manager needs to sort out the defence (Jaap Stam?). Sign an experienced centre half and maybe a left back in January. Bring in a good young Premier League striker on loan. Cauley scores 20 goals to keep us up, then we sell him for £5m in the summer. Given the limitations of several of the young players, I'd play 4-4-2 with Brown, Dougall, Mowatt and Thomas in midfield. Sorted.
The Championship in 2019 bears little resemblance to the historical second tier that BFC has spent so much time in. It's a league dominated by high-spending, idiotic clubs, most of whom have eye-watering levels of debt. Fiddling around with our income streams will have a marginal impact at best compared to that lot (I do agree we should be looking at them, but I'm not expecting much improvement, and certainly not in the short-term).
Can you imagine butterfield in midfield dictating play alongside mowatt. Be able to switch between a midfield 2/3 depending on how we are set up with ease. The club told butterfield to **** off. Even though he was willing to take a substantial cut in wage. Too old.
What I find bizarre is that these people who defend the boards strategy are happy for us to pay substantial transfer fees on players who don’t play & inevitably many of them leave without us recouping a fee. We’ve paid fees for 4 centre backs this summer & only two will play regularly. Let’s say we’ve spent a total of £1.5m & £375k each (although it’s probably more) on these 4. That’s £750k of money on players who won’t be starting. That’s a hell of a lot of money that could be spent on wages for slightly better quality players who are free agents. Why not sign two who are experienced & the two you see as the best out of Anderson, Diaby, Halme & Sibbick & probably save the club some money & more than likely get better results on the pitch? Davies gone for nothing, Isgrove went for nothing, Hedges went for nothing, Jackson went for nothing, Fryers went for nothing. Surely we should only be signing the best of the young players we identify & not throwing money away in transfer fees for virtually all of the squad?
