Explain that defence flicker

'Make no marks about it you've cost us that game, wiseman at the heart of defence whilst Hassell and foster on the bench. So ****ing frustrating.

 

I agree. Weird team selection.

 

Wiseman had a decent game today. Why Etuhu played RWB and then RB I'll never know.

 

Is Hill sneaking back on the sly.

 

Mellis at CAM, Etuhu and CDM, Delap at RWB. Tommy C isn't a LWB either but he had a much better game in the second half when he played further up the pitch.

 

Wiseman just spent 90 minutes hiding

 

I disagree, not sure how a centre half can hide, you defend what comes your way, it's not like shying away from receiving the ball like Tunnicliffe did all first half. Then in the second half he got a bit more of the ball but just gave it away before being substituted.

 

I couldn't work out why Etuhu was played out wide when Flicker himself said his form as a central midfielder was great. First half was terrible.

 

Defence still in the pool in Spain today......baffling team selection

 

Wiseman played well, i don't rate him but there's no need to give him grief just because of that. others played far worse than him today.

 

Poor team selection today our attack was puny without harewood .
Defense like to ball watch I mean defense as a team not just the back four
Why he changed it so much beats me tbh harewood and O'Grady softens them up and then Scotland comes on and finishes them off why he changed that I don't know
His success came on the back of playing players in their positions and a settled side why he changed everything today was beyond me cywfca was woe full with the ball etuhu looked lost and Bolton piled everything down his side
Don't copy hills tactics flicker or it will all fall foul you'll lose the players the momentum and the fans
Hope he realises his mistake today and rectifies it as Hassel would have been more effective in that position today than etuhu .

 

I think it was more poor tactics in the first half rather than poor selection, saying that I would have had different tactics so would have had slightly different players.
I think Flicker fell into Keith's problem of setting up based on who the opposition are rather than it being about us. I'm not sure why we flooded the middle of midfield then bypassed them by hoofing it to O'Grady and Daggers, who were up against a couple of giants. It also looked like some weren't paying attention when the tactics were discussed as they did not seem to have a clue what was happening.
I do hope Flicker took on board that we played a lot better when we played with wide men.

 

I think it was more poor tactics in the first half rather than poor selection, saying that I would have had different tactics so would have had slightly different players.
I think Flicker fell into Keith's problem of setting up based on who the opposition are rather than it being about us. I'm not sure why we flooded the middle of midfield then bypassed them by hoofing it to O'Grady and Daggers, who were up against a couple of giants. It also looked like some weren't paying attention when the tactics were discussed as they did not seem to have a clue what was happening.
I do hope Flicker took on board that we played a lot better when we played with wide men.

 

Tunnicliffe was terrible. Mellis is twice the player.

Wiseman doesn't dominate forwards. He allows them to win headers. Not his fault another manger picks him at CB though. Will we ever learn???

 

I think all the defence were poor today, Wiseman didn't play well at all, they were half asleep for most of the game, the odd moment of decent play doesn't cover up for their lack of concentration and togetherness , so much for team building in Spain. The last 20 minutes, Boltons time wasting aside , some players lapsed into Hillesque f.ucking about .

 

I am not a Wiseman fan but he played well today. He was taking some right roughing from Craig Davis but played him out of game. Fairs fair lads, you cannot blame Wiseman. Ethu was out of his depth. Bolton were a robust side and were knocking he'll out of us off the ball and we were not as fluent as we normally are. That was because we did not pick the right team. Burnley next and let's hope we go back to old team. Get Dawson in for Ethu Harewood with Daggers and OGrady up front then Scotland back in last 30 mins. Steele to up his game a little. This league relegation is going to go right to the wire. Where was crowd today, skint ? with buying Man City Tickets. Nice earner and good day for supporters but deep down I wish we did not have that game as of now

 

Why? Because he played well in the second half against a centre forward who wouldn't get in our team any more?

He contained Davies well in the second half granted. But first half we looked decidedly woeful defensively, for which you can't single out just wiseman for blame, but he's not completely beyond criticism either. He was played in the middle of three centre halves and he's just not equipped to do the job. More equipped than mcnumpty but still.

If you are playing in the centre of a back three it is you who has to be the leader, controlling the line and communicating all the time. It didn't happen as he's neither a natural centre back or a natural leader.

Whoever is picked in a Barnsley team will be supported by me on matchday, mssrs wiseman and mcnulty included, but for me the issue isn't just that they aren't good enough, it's that there are better options at the club, and that there has to be much, much better available for loan. Surely.

If we aren't going to get a wing back in to cover the loss of Golbourne, then for me it's a standard back four, Kennedy at left back, cranie and foster probably at centre back - right back - (it ain't gonna be bobby, we know that) - Delap, or maybe wiseman would be better out there than in the middle. I reckon though he's more likely to stick with 3-5-2, so if its to be a back three it can't include mcnulty or wiseman when the others are available.

It's no coincidence that we've looked worse, plenty worse, since losing Dawson and Golbourne, possibly the two stand out players of our season. Dawson coming back will help but arguably with Perkins and etuhu he's less of a miss than Golbourne.

I don't get why hill and now flicker persist in giving chances to players like mcnulty and wiseman, who, with the odd exception like the second half today for wiseman or some of last season (nothing at all this season) for mcnulty, are consistently shown to be well short of the required standard. It seems nothing but arrogant that neither is prepared to accept the need to strengthen in the defensive areas.

Another thing I don't get is what Ryan tunnicliffe is doing at the football club. One thing we are not short of is midfield players and hes not as good as what is already here from what ive seen. Whatever loan fee and wage we are paying could be being spent on a centre back, left wing back, whatever. Signed because flicker likes him, not because we particularly need him I'd say.

Flicker has done a tremendous job, going forward we always look good and have consistently scored under him, massively improved since hill in terms of goal scoring, yet there has been no tangible effort to defensively strengthen - changing formation is one thing, but the one thing we've been crying out for all season is a centre half and to my knowledge we've never so much as enquired about one.

 

Etutu--- thought he might take him off during the game,thought he was playing him to regain his confidence and express himself as prior to the head butt he received at MK DONS.
get him back up to speed in an actual game.
thought he would be out of his depth playing against any side yesterday....needs to regain his confident way of playing..after playing a match may see the Etutu we have seen before.

 

Wisemen was actually my motm today... Didn't hide! Better decision making, mase important last ditch tackles and Won Arial battles, couldn't be blamed for any of the goals IMHO...

A big well done from me!

Unlike McMulty last week who I thought was awful. He give the ball away far to often and isn't up it... Not championship