Extra officials behind the goals

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  1. funnyfella23

    funnyfella23 Well-Known Member

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    I read it is coming in from tonight in Europa league, then Champions League if successful, the top flight leagues after that. We will be spared thankfully.

    Just wondering what the Everton fans sat in front rows behind the goals tonight will think (and see!) with a bloke (or woman) standing in front of them :D
     
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    Fat goalie wouldn't be able to see a thing

    It's a daft idea though. Why not use hawkeye like in the tennis?
     
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    RE: Fat goalie wouldn't be able to see a thing

    They seem to be terrified of technology. Doing all they can to avoid it. At least they are doing something to improve it I suppose. Problem is that things often happen so fast that there is often room for doubt in real time, no matter how many people see it. Personally I like it as it is, everybody just has to accept that mistakes are made. The spirit of sport doesn't exist anymore.
     
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    RE: Fat goalie wouldn't be able to see a thing

    Its a toss idea and is just a kop-out from introducing technology. It still subject to human error which is the reason why they are looking at it. Also imagine the stick they'll get from the fans if they disallow a goal. Dogs abuse I bet.
     
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    RE: Fat goalie wouldn't be able to see a thing

    coin throwers have a nice new target and it's right in their firing line :D
     
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    Is it reasonable to expect extra officials at every football match?

    It's okay in top flight football. But will it be practical to demand them at all levels, right down to grass roots? Because if they don't, they'll have created a two tier system. I can't see that being a good thing.
     
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    RE: Is it reasonable to expect extra officials at every football match?

    and that is the very reason I don't like the idea of hawkeye style technology, better to just accept mistakes will be made by referees now and in year 2109 unless by then they have some kind of suber-robotic ref that hovers round the pitch?
     
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    They are going to get very cold too. Stood still for 75% of most games, in January, with just shorts and a shirt on. Lineo and ref keep warm by running, what are the others going to do, starjumps? They are going to take some pillocking.
     
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    In games where the stand is close to the pitch they will wear an helmet that also covers their hears to block out crowd noise and keeps them focused. According to a uefa cheif in talk spoart
     
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    what a great start for the europa league, no wonder it's not taken seriously
     
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    Stupid idea

    It is very rare that between two linesmen and a ref there isn't one person who has a clear view of an incident. Take these two **** ups with goals recently for example have had at least one official with a perfect view of the ball yet still not given it, presumably because theyre scared to overrule the ref.

    What use would an extra official behind the net be? They'd only be able to help out with one decision which is has the ball crossed the line or not and how often is that needed? At oakwell possible once every 3 months?
    Surely if we are going to have these extra two men then it would make much more sense to have them as extra linesmen, have one over by the west stand runing from the goal line to about half way up the first half of the pitch, then one at east stand doing the second quarter to the half way line, west stand doing halfway line to halfway to the away stand and then east stand again doing the final quarter. Means the linesman is never too far away from the action, isn't miles behind play and more importantly gives you two opposite views of every incident and thats without taking into account the refs view. With three possible angles looking towards the goal i would like to think that at least one of them would have a good enough view to see if something has gone in the net or 10 yards wide.

    And the idea of needing an helmet to protect them is rubbish, it is no different to the linesman standing on the edge of the pitch every match
     
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    And in any case - why just pick on the one objective

    I'd question whether there is a really debateable incidence more than once per season at a trpical ground

    Yet you get debateable onside/offside and was it on or outside the area decisions week in week out

    is it only me that thinks having a goal disallowed becasue a linesman incorrectly flags for offside, or allowed for the opposite reason
    or a player handles the ball before scoring (Arsenal last night) isnt just as bad as not allowing a goal when it really did cross the line
     
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    I think the helmet....

    .... may be needed for protection, can you imagine what it would be like at Galatasaray?
     
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    Daft idea for me. But what do i know - Everton scored a goal tonight from a corner given by 5th official!!! Ref couldnt have seen it and would have given a goalkick i think :)
     
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