F1: Rosberg self -delusional...

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  1. Tek

    Tekkytyke Well-Known Member

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    ...yep I know some on here find it a big yawn but for those that don't.

    What did you think of Rosbergs move on Verstappen? Looked a carbon copy of the stunt he pulled on Hamilton in Austria. Does the guy never learn? he copmpounded that by trying to tell the team over the radio to "point out" that he had full right lock on"

    Yeah Rosberg, you did when you reached the outer line of the track limit missing the apex completely forcing Verstappen off the track. Funny how he got a 5 second penalty when in Austria for not only forcing Hamilton off the track blocked him from coming back on. Consistent the commentators say except the penalty in Austria was not for that but was, in fact, for continuing to race with a damaged unsafe car.

    Karma!!!.... when Mercedes pit crew the stopwatch used for the penalty was faulty and they actually took 8.3 seconds before changing the wheels.

    I would normally sympathise in that verstappen regularly changes direction more than once in the braking zone (as he did this time but gets away with it everytime. However since I consider Rosberg to be whinging cheat I have no sympathy on this occasion.

    Whatever people views on Hamilton you can only admire his skill as true racer in the modern era.
     
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    Said same about that move, late into corner pushing Max off track. Very aggressive move but this time no collision. Will catch Hamilton back up when Lewis takes his engine penalty.
     
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    Yes I couldn't understand the commentators and himself all saying that he turned. Yes he turned but he turned too late. Arguing that there was nothing he could do because he was going too fast is like me blowing into an oncoming car at a bend and arguing that the reason I was on the wrong side of the road was that I was going too fast but I turned fully officer.

    Rosberg is a poor driver but in my opinion Hamilton is nowhere as good as they say he is, or verstappen or indeed vettell. There is only one real world class racer on the grid for me and that's Fernando Alonso. The rest are all championship players at best. Take all the fancy driving aids away and half of them wouldn't know how to get the thing off the grid, the other half wouldn't make it round the first corner
     
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    I get the feeling that Martin Brundle has started sticking up for Nico Rosberg just to give a balanced argument.

    The only difference between this one and the one on Hamilton was that Rosberg didn't make contact with Verstappen. He'd passed the corner before he began to turn his wheel.

    I don't actually think Martin Brundle actually believes what he was saying.

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    Didn't,t Hamilton show alonso up when they were in the same team and it was his 1st season in f1 so your wrong Hamilton way better than alonso I,m afraid.Alonso is a has been.
     
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    In the pre show Brundle mentioned about having the director commenting in his ear quite a lot which I found quite interesting. I wonder how much of his commentary is his opinion and how much he is told to say.

    I know it's not real or anything but in wrestling (see) the commentators are constantly fed lines and told what to say by the owner. Considering that F1 is on sky I wouldn't be surprised to find that a similar thing happens.

    Even during his grid walk today he spoke to Nicholas Hoult (hank/beast from xmen) but clearly had no idea who he was talking to. He misheard somebody in his ear telling him who he was and introduced him as "x files star" before correcting himself when he was told again, he then proceeded to spend the entire interview not mentioning his name which he clearly didn't know.

    Just makes me wonder how much of the commentary is real and how much is staged by sky
     
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    There is a long long history of seasons where a cars design just fits one driver more than another, it doesn't mean that the driver is necessarily better though. Kimi Raikkonen can be easily the fastest guy on the grid when the cars setup fits him just right, he can finish 9th or 10th when it doesn't.
     
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    Cut out the ****** make your mouth say anything he,s not in and never has been in Hamilton,s class,now if you had said Prost,Senna,mansell I would agree with you.
     
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    It's called an opinion. An opinion that is, by the way, shared by many many other people who regard Fernando Alonso as the best true racer on the grid
     
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    Name em then ,alonso got out out of mclaren when Hamilton started beating him so he got out,Don,t talk ****.
     
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    Grow up lad
     
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    Don,t make ridiculous statements you can,t back up,tell me then why alonso is a better driver than Hamilton?
     
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    Why do you use so many commas in your writing?
     
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    Rambling old fart
     
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    What, NO commas ????
     
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    My favourite interview on the grid walk was with Kevin Magnusson (sp). Martin was either waiting for instruction of what to say, or couldn't think of anything helpful to ask him. In the end he just said, "good car? Good conditions?".

    I actually quite like Martin Brundle, but he made a point of saying in his interview with Nico Rosberg that he had stuck up for him on twitter and received flack, after last week's incident. It may be that he's being told to say these things, or maybe yes trying on his own to be controversial to cause debate.

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    F1 is the most difficult sport in the world to determine who the best participant is. It's all about the teams. Mercedes are the best team, but I can't say for certain that it's because they have the best drivers.

    I would say that Lewis Hamilton seems to be a very good driver. But the only real measure I can think of is on top gear. He was the fastest F1 driver in a relaxed competition where all the drivers have driven the same car (or at least he was from what I can remember, I know Mark Webber pushed him close).

    If everyone drove the same car, there would be some surprise names near the front of the grid for sure. I often keep an eye on the Force India team, who don't necessarily have a quick car, but at times seem to finish much higher up the grid than you'd expect, and that has to be down to driver quality.

    It might be a bizarre statement but I reckon the likes of Paul Di Resta and Adrian Sutil in the recent past would have been much closer to the front of the grid had they been given the opportunity at driving a faster car.

    Max Verstappen has the potential to surpass both Vettell and Hamilton in terms of world titles in my opinion. And he's already in a very quick car. I reckon in a few years he could easily be the best on the grid.

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    Hamilton's said quite a few times that he would like it if they all drove the same car. It's not going to happen though.

    Hamilton's very good. Number 49 today. He's only been beat one season I believe in his time in F1 and that was by Button at the time he was thinking about jumping ship (or staying with maybe) to Mercedes and Button might have been reigning world Champion.

    On Drivers I like, Don't understand anyone that doesn't like Max Verstappen. Experience isn't worth the paper you write it on if you've not got the talent and it's great to see. One year out of karts and he signs a F1 deal. Also Sainz and wehrlein. Think all three are top class. Think Mercades should ship Rosberg out and go all out for Max or put Wehrlein in the seat. It's unlikely though because Nico's just signed a new deal but that's not everything.
     
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    I love Alonso but he's had plenty of great machines under him and hasn't achieved as much as he should.

    Some drivers really benefit from driving a car that is a lot better than the rest. Schumacher and Vettel are the best examples of that. However, both of those two had teammates who weren't allowed to compete with them. I often felt Webber and Massa were good enough to be Champions in those cars had it been allowed. But team orders...

    Hamilton has indeed been driving the best car the last couple of years. However, practically every 'expert' said he was a lunatic for leaving McLaren for Mercedes. And, at Mercedes he has not had the luxury of team orders. He's had to fight for every race victory and there have been many. I'm not one of those who downplays Rosberg's ability. He's a ******* brilliant driver. He just happens to be up against the greatest F1 racer since the greatest, Ayrton Senna.


    I'd like Lewis to drive for Ferrari before he retires. How many drivers have won the title with three different teams?




    I reckon Ricciardo is the next best on the grid.

    And Button is massively underrated.
     

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