Falkland Islands Referendum on monday

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  1. redarmy990

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    The Islanders want to show the Argentines they are British and are staying British.

    Doubt the crazy Argentine goverment will accept it though.

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    I'm not sure its crazy that a government would claim sovereignty over an island to which it is the closest country, they believe was granted to them at the end of Spanish succession and they view as having been illegally occupied since the British took it, and carries potential wealth in the waters surrounding it. I'm sure we'd be raising the issue every now and then if an island off of our coast was occupied by Argentinians.

    I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with them but I can't see why its crazy. I'd be interested to know how all those in favour of self-determination for Falkland Islanders viewed those campaigning for self-determination in Scotland. I presume you supported the SNP?
     
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    when you have lost friends and family in conflict its dear to the heats of some.

    The argentines wouldnt even try take it if it wasnt for the oil rich grounds
     
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    Channel Islands ?

    Should they be under French governance ?

    We nicked the Falklands off the Spanish, so maybe it's them we should be arguing with...

    If there was no oil there, Kirchner wouldn't be making any moves at all.
     
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    Serious question, why aren't these so called-oil-rich grounds being exploited? and /or why aren't there are any apparent signs to do so?
     
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    You only care because you've got some shares.

    Boo. Corporate fat cat.
     
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    they are and there is. test drilling was completed about 2 years ago and BP amongst others are now trying tolease the waters around the Islands
     
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    I can absolutely understand that, but I also presume the Argentinians who lost friends and family in the conflict feel the same.

    I have no doubt that it is one of the motives, as I stated. Its the primary motive in most foreign policy for most countries. It guides the vast majority of our foreign interventions.
     
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    Whereas the British have never colonised for financial, military or political gain. Definitely not.
     
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    actually the first inhabitants of the island were french so its thay that could lay claim
     
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    Sold em.... at their all time high in a mrx stylee.....
     
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    Thanks, Ah BP eh, nice to know that the Lives lost in this conflict helped to promote a Global giant. Wonder how much the ordinary British citizen will benefit from this???
     
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    To be honest I have no desire for anyone to perpetuate the claims to anywhere based on colonisation. But I'm not sure we did nick them off the Spanish. They traded hands between France, Spain and ourselves but I think they were in Spanish control when Argentina became independent, and we took them back in 1833.

    And oil is clearly a major motivator. On all sides. We will hide behind self-determination and they will hide behind geography and the political will of the Argentinian people. But interest in oil is a very rational motive from a government, not a crazy one, which was my point
     
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    after more investigations its not BP As i was told . The Falklands own goverment has been doing the testing.1.4 billion barrels of oil have been found so far and Gas too.
     
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    theres one quote by the Argetine foreign miister that really gets to me

    likeing the inhabitants of the Falklands to Israelis in Palestine.
     
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    The outcome will be the same mate. The vast majority will not feel the benefits of any of this.
     
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    Agian, I'm not saying I agree with any Argentinian claim but on a seperate issue, and following on from the Chavez thread, Argentinian people would benefit more from Argentinian oil than we do from British oil. They are part of the South American alliance which nationalises its assets instead of letting multi-nationals have it
     
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    No it's not crazy for them to claim them, just a shame they only get interested to prop up a discredited Junta or for oil.

    ooh, sounds familiar.
     
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    I agree, I should've said from a British perspective.
     

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