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  1. Red

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    what is the difference between a fan and a supporter of BFC ?
     
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    But a muppet that throws coins smoke cannisters etc is neither
    The club and normal fan n supporters dont want em
     
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    I would think that a fan likes the club and wants them to win, a supporter offers support in some way (most probably financially through buying a ticket).
     
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    fan from fanatic meaning I guess obsessed by supporter as In in vaguely in favour of.
     
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    I'd agree with JamDrop.
     
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    We may not always see eye to eye but I cannot disagree with that.
     
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    I'd say the fan was supposedly the most dedicated as it 's the shortened version of fanatic and used to be used for the ones who eat drink and breathe football, follow their team wherever and whenever at any cost, personal or financial and suffer mood swings etc depending on the performance of their chosen side.
     
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    Thanks - I agree a 'fan' sounds to be more committed to the club than a 'supporter.'
     
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    I don't think they are, I think that while fan is a shortened term of fanatic it's use has changed since then and I would consider a fan to be somebody who looks out for a teams results or wants them to do well but doesn't really support them. I'd call myself a fan of a few teams but only a supporter of one.

    I feel that you can be a fan without being a supporter but cant be a supporter without being a fan and there are some people who go to Barnsley matchers who certainly aren't supporting the club when they are facing away from the pitch taunting others , breaking the rules set by the club and costing them a fortune in policing costs
     
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    I consider myself a "Fan" as I can't get to games but still want the best for my Club. However, I respect those I class as "Supporters" as I look to them to find out how things going. They are my eyes and ears rather than the Club's publicity machine. That's why I come on here!
     
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    Man Utd have millions world wide who support the club by injecting cash via subscribing to MUTV buying shirts along with other crap, but they get 70'000 fans at home
     
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    Does money come in to it - if you give money to something do you become a supporter.
    Also, the context is relevant - I could say I'm a fan of an activity like speed skating or a fan of a performer like Paloma Faith (her name just came into my head!) but I wouldn't say I'm a supporter of speed skating or of Paloma Faith.
     
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    I'd never call myself a football supporter I'm not southern...
     
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    Definition from THE TIMES

    received enormous messages from some people who were asking if this is a Manzini Wanderers column or what. Some were asking the difference between a fan and a supporter.
    Today I will answer the latter question. The major difference between the two, which is often mistaken as the same thing, is how much a person actually concerns themselves about learning the legacies, rivalries, the traditions and, most importantly, the history of that particular club. People will refute this by saying it is just a different terminology, and, to be honest, that is just it, but it is learning the appropriate ways, or words to describe the club you support.


    Words that are often used to describe a supporter are, passionate, dedicated and loyal, and, most importantly, embodying everything that the club is all about. Supporting a club does not only demand unconditional love, but it requires that person to also honour and respect traditions, which is something a lot of fans this days do not take into consideration.
    A fan, which is short for fanatics, is simply someone who casually watches a match but does not have the club’s best interest at heart – no matter the results. If the club falters a portion of the fan base start ridiculing either the manager or the players. While it is okay to critique or call out a certain player for not performing to their ability, these fans, if they were supporters, would have already learned that they must take the good with the bad. Another glaring difference between the two is that a supporter values the colour of the shirt and crest on the front of it, while a fan values the name on the back more.


    The one thing a supporter wants in return of all the hard work they do off the field is for the players on the field to understand and appreciate it. We may not be physically talented to play the game. We most likely could not sing well or play the drums properly. What they do is to give 100 per cent and they want the team to give 100 per cent back. We feel a loss just as bad; we get excited for a win just as much.

    The twelfth man

    Football fans describe themselves as ‘the twelfth man’ – as essential to the success of the team as the players and the coaching staff. It is the actions performed by fans during the game, the ritual chants, and songs, banner waving etc that motivates the team, intimidate the opposition players and perhaps even influences referees’ decision. The fans truly believe they must attend the game to help the team to win, not just to observe the event. Well I am not saying that one is better than the other but there is that important difference.
    What do supporters do differently?
    Take a club like Bayern Munich for example. They have by far the most fans in Germany, but only a group of supporters. The fans buy lots of merchandise and attend home matches, and usually refer to the team not the club. The fan idolises players, but often knows little about the club’s history. When a club does not do well, more and more seats will be empty, whereas the section of the supporters is as full as ever.

    The mindset

    A supporter loves the club, not the team and its players. Those are mercenaries who do not identify with the club and will transfer as soon as more money is offered. To a supporter it is always about the club not the team. No matter where or when the club plays, or how important the match is, the supporter is always there. A lot of times this means sacrificing other aspects of his life because words like loyalty and honour still mean something. The supporter will defend the club’s name if necessary without getting it into trouble. To the supporters the club is a lifestyle.
    The supporter supports the team throughout the entire match, regardless of the score or the performance. Because the team needs the support the most when things are not going well. Even if the players on the field do not care, supporters will sing for the club’s honour.
    It is a pity clubs want to replace supporters with customers who will shell out money without asking questions. The clubs’ identities are slowly taken away.
    May the heavens smile upon you.
    (ALLRIGHT ITS THE SWAZILAND TIMES -BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING)
     

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