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  1. Gue

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    Guest, Jun 18, 2007
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  2. Jim

    Jimmy Red New Member

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    that cant be true can it?

    surely they would be free to post - afterall they are only fixtures.
     
    Jimmy Red, Jun 18, 2007
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    Free fixtures?

    :)S)
     
    MexboroughTyke, Jun 18, 2007
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  4. Gue

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    RE: Free fixtures

    and fittings with any purchase
     
    Guest, Jun 18, 2007
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  5. Stu

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    RE: that cant be true can it?

    Its true apparently. This site would get into **** if someone posted the full list. Ridiculous really.
     
    Stuppa, Jun 18, 2007
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  6. Gue

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    deadly serious. nt
     
    Guest, Jun 18, 2007
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  7. Gue

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    yeah deadly serious

    heaven forbid anyone take money out of the premier leagues pocket
     
    Guest, Jun 18, 2007
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  8. Gue

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    Guest, Jun 18, 2007
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  9. Gue

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    do a poll
     
    Guest, Jun 18, 2007
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  10. Gue

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    Graham?
     
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  11. Gue

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    pot nt
     
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  12. Stu

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    tax

    .
     
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  13. Gue

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    dance nt
     
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  14. Stu

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    and

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  15. Gue

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    tergiest nt
     
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  16. Dal

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    thats mad as **** (copper)
     
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    it is and it isnt true

    The football league/premier league do claim to hold copyright over the fixtures but it has already been decided in a court of law that they cannot stop you from publishing them if you wish as the law only governs databases where the copyright holder has had to compile the database themselves and you are just stealing it while with fixtures it is argued that a/. ytou could compile the database yourself by phoning the clubs up and asking who they are playing on what days etc and b/. the football league/premier league didnt have to put any effort in to compile the database as it was compiled automatically when the fixtures were created. Or it's something like that anyway.
    Either way the football authorities ignored the ruling and continue to state that it is illegal to reproduce them because they know that by saying that and by threatening to sue people who ignore them then they can scare people into handing over the money.

    Or at least that's my understanging of it.
     
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    yes, thats me

    :)
     
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  19. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Its as good as true

    Fan sites have been shut down because of it.
    The problem is all fan sites are hosted on commercial websites

    The League has an annoying habit of sending a solicitors letter to the host full of legal threats regarding breach of copywrite so the Website is taken off air and only allowed back on once they have removed the offending copywrite material and given undertakings not to do it again.

    Supertyke correctly points out that the League are not correct however, Commercial hosts dont want a legal challenge, fans running fansites dont want to spend time in court so the league can ride roughshod over the law.

    Tjere was a brilliant dialog between a fan site and the league published on one fan site a year or so ago that perfectly illustrates this, I will see if I can find it and post the link - not promising though
     
    Farnham_Red, Jun 18, 2007
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  20. Farnham_Red

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    Here is a typical examle of the letter a fansite would receive if they display fixtures

    We write on behalf of the Football Data Co Limited which is the appointed
    licensee of the FA Premier League, the Football League, the Scottish
    Premier League and the Scottish Football League ("the Leagues") in respect
    of the licensing of certain intellectual property rights of the Leagues,
    including those in the fixture lists for this season August 2004 - May
    2005 ("the Fixture Lists"), for use by third parties.

    We have noticed that your website
    is displaying Football
    Fixtures. In order to display the Fixture Lists you must obtain the
    necessary licence from the Press Association.

    We wish to make you aware that we have a good faith belief that your
    present use is an infringement of the Leagues' legal rights and that all
    such unauthorised use must cease immediately. Please confirm by return
    your agreement to this and give your undertaking to cease all such
    infringements on any and all of your web sites. Pending your response the
    Leagues' rights are fully reserved.

    The Leagues have appointed the Press Association as their official agent
    for the licensing and distribution of the Fixtures List. If you have
    inadvertently infringed our clients' copyright please take immediate steps
    to contact the Press Association (Email customer.services@pa.press.net) to
    obtain the appropriate licence. Please confirm to us by e-mail that you
    are now seeking an appropriate licence. Because of the time sensitive
    nature of the Fixture Lists you are required to remove them immediately
    from your site pending the granting of a licence.
     
    Farnham_Red, Jun 18, 2007
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