Following on from the.........Patrick - club for sale thread

As I've said all along there is no one on here that is having a dig at Patrick Cryne.
We all know that we will be forever in his debt.

However, this doesn't mean that we cannot ask questions on why he hasn't sold the club by now.
His intentions from the start - and I've heard him say this myself - is that he wanted to save the club, stabilise the club, and then sell it on.
That hasn't happened.

Consequently the club has been stuck in 2nd gear - neither moving forward or going backwards - every 18 months the manager and most of the squad gets thrown out of the door.
Which is in stark contrast to the John Dennis years - when improvements were made each year to either the playing staff or to the infrastructure of the club.
You only have to look at the stands and the training facilities to realise this.
Nothing has been built while Patrick has been in charge - either on or off the field.
And remember - John Dennis was a wealthy man compared to most that post on here - but he was nowhere near as wealthy as Patrick.
Unfortunately for the club John Dennis over stretched in his efforts to get Barnsley back into the Premiership - but this is a debate for another time.

Comments on here include - 'no one wants to buy Barnsley'. Why not? Who has been approached? Information received at supporters meetings isn't good enough - ALL the fans deserve to hear the facts and those facts should be made available in print in the Barnsley Chronicle - and not in some pub.
Why isn't the efforts to sell the club being reported in the local papers?

Other comments include - 'no one wants a club like Barnsley'. Why not? Barnsley has been in the Premiership and shown, when it is, that it can fill the stadium. Its horrible to hear our own fans belittling their own club.
THE POTENTIAL AT BARNSLEY FOOTBALL CLUB HAS NEVER BEEN REALISED.
Basically because we have never had a string of successful years compared to clubs just north and south of us i.e. Leeds and Sheffield.

What we need is a owner with the funds to prime the pump that will make that success happen.
Having Patrick still involved in an advisory capacity would be the best of both worlds - because we know that he loves the club.

Over the last decade or so we have missed a golden opportunity in realising the FULL potential of the club as our main rivals for football support have been in the doldrums (Leeds and Sheffield clubs). This could change quite soon at Sheffield Wednesday - it would be a tragedy to see Barnsley Town Centre and south along the Dearne Valley turning to blue and white stripes (again).

 

Stop attention seeking and get a life.

 

So you would rather us be held up by a man with money, than be run like a PROPER business where we spend what money we make.

Do you think Patrick made his money originally by pumping millions into his own business? Any investor is going to want to see a fast return on their investment.

Just go on dragons den and ask those business people to pump millions into a business that at the very least will not see any profit for a minimum of 3 years...
Only the premiership guarantees a big payday!

 

I can merely repeat what Mr Cryne said last night. The only potential buyers were specifically interested in obtaining the land, rather than the club. Wealthy individuals have been approached, Paul Sykes for example, and they simply weren't interested. Foreign investors are interested in city clubs, not those based in provincial towns.
This may not be what people want to hear or accept, but this is what was said.

 

Interesting, did anyone ask how Bournemouth, with smaller crowds than us, and no bigger town came to be bought if that's the general concensus ?

 

So why are you having a dig at the facilities which you are intimating have not been improved since the days of cowboy John Dennis who just about sent our club into oblivion?

You really ought to think things out properly before you post on here. Our even better turn up to such meetings if you want to vent your spleen at anyone ...

 

No. Again, I'm simply repeating what was said last night.

 

I thought every season Patrick puts kindly around a million of his own money into our club? Therefore we already aren't a proper run business because we aren't just spending what we make.

 

i must admit, i don't get the 'John Dennis was ace' view either.

total opposite in fact.

 

For every Bournemouth there's a Blackburn or a Leeds - grass isn't always greener on the other side.

 

Your post on this subject are getting a bit tedious now. Patrick has tried to find a buyer and people are more in treated in the land the Club sits on than the football club. Do we really want people like that running our club. Other investors want big city teams like Leeds forest ect ect.
I've been watching us scince the season before we got promoted to the premiership I loved the premiership but we are a championship/league one club at best we cannot sustain a top end championship finish without millions pumped in and I don't see anyone who would be willing to do that.
Having said that the current recruitment bringing young hungry players in makes me belive if we were to get promoted we could compete in the championship as these players are growing and improving and playing football the proper way. With a young talented coach. I hope I'm right because last time we was in championship I nearly lost intrest we were just struggling every season.
You one day mark my words will wish we still had pat when he has gone (i for one just hope his son takes over) just be careful what you wish for we all want the club to be successful but I'm glad we have a Barnsley businesses man running it who cares about the club and not having us living beyond our means. Look what has happened at pompey. If you feel so strongly though maybe you could drum up some investment get in touch with some millionaires ect instead of banging on about in on here. It isn't constructive.

 

Exactly the point I'm making... We are reliant on money being pumped in, and some still aren't happy!
Out of the frying pan into the fire! So just cos Patrick only puts a million or so in...
The OP would therefore be happier with a Russian billionaire pumping money in, and not with a well run, financially secure Business.

The current board are trying to get us to that level.
And I for one commend them for it.

 

Yep.........that's my thoughts as well.

Clubs smaller and of similar stature have been bought...........why hasn't Barnsley?

Which if you look at the location of Barnsley in such a highly populated area - then Barnsley is a prime location to build a highly successful club.
That's about 220k living in the district and immediately surrounded on most sides with other highly populated areas.

I think Barnsley should have a football club that is regularly in mid table to the top of the Championship with occasional ventures into the Premiership.
A club with a status of say Norwich and Ipswich.

Instead we have a club that is either stuck in the 3rd tier of English football or is anchored in the bottom 6 of the Championship.
Consequently - year on year it is losing its fan base.

 

Not losing fan base before we won the play off final to the championship we were getting around 8k a week. Take Wednesday they were 8k reds there were plenty of old shirts out I'd say under half were sph. So that's around 4k who came not being sph. If we doing well at near top this season they come back along with the ones who watched it on sky with the sph we start getting in them top two spots that's 12k plus reds in oakwell. The support is there.

 

If you believe I and others are inaccurately reporting what was said last night, why not simply ask Patrick yourself? Then if you believe you either know better, or think he's passing on misinformation, you can tell him to his face.

 

Totally agree with that maybe mentioning it once your opinion on the matter is acceptable,but I've seen you make about three threads on it and comment about it on plenty of others. It isn't constructive and you should have gone to the meeting and asked Patrick I'm sure he would have no problem in answering your questions

 

That's a fair point.

I'm more than happy for Mr Cryne to remain in situ for as long as he chooses, and wouldn't have bat an eyelid had he passed on the baton to his son. I'm not keen on foreign ownership, just because I like my comfort zone really.

But it's a good point that. Bournemouth the exception? I dunno.

 

You mean the same Bournemouth on the south coast, where some of the richest people in the country live, in some of the most expensive real estate. Yeah I wonder why they got cherry picked and not us!

 

Hardly a sleeping giant were they ?

And Poole, for all its millionaires - steeped in football...?

 

Where's my picture of a handbag ?