<a href="javascriptopup(49678390);"><span class="ProgrammeHeading">when boris met dave </span> <span class="programmetext">Docudrama examining the origins of Boris Johnson and David Cameron's friendship at Eton and Oxford during the 80s. Contemporaries, political commentators and personal biographers reminiscence about the lighter moments in the formative years of the ...</span></a> <span class="tvchannel">More4</span> <span class="datetime">9:00pm Wed 7 Oct</span>
And? So because they went to Eton and knew each other they're unfit to run the country? I served in the Army, my dad was a steel-worker and my grandad a miner. Not a whiff of a public school anywhere in the family but i wont be going anywhere near the working class Brown and his cronies as they have proven they ARE unfit to run the country. This board gets dafter and dafter.
I've never understood why Going to one of the best schools in the country is seen as a disadvantage in someone running a large city or potentially the country Not saying that going to Wombwell High is necessarily a disadvantage either but the inverse snobbery against Eton is not really something I can understand
The disadvantage is they are are about as in touch with the reality of everyday life for the majority of people as Dougal and Zebedee. The likelihood is they will run the country in the best interests of the wealthy.
But that applies to all politicians Dont tell me that Gordon or Tony have any grasp on reality either Just dont see how being brought up in a working class family qualifies you to run a country better than an upper class family thats all TO be honest I'd rather the country was run by proven sucessfull businessmen (Alan Sugar excepted) than career politicians who have never done a days real work. - that applies to both parties
Blair is as upper class as any tory from Eton He went to fetes College, generally referred too as the Eton of Scotland , then Oxford Not that i think there is anything wrong with that just stating facts
RE: But that applies to all politicians Just dont see how being brought up in a working class family qualifies you to run a country better than an upper class family thats all</p> </p> The thing is Dave its all down to experience of life.</p> When, as a Child did Cameron or Boris have any experience of poverty or even being poor?</p> Have either of them any friends living on Council Estates? </p> Have they ever been to Clethorpes on Holiday or had a camping holiday at Brid because your parents couldn't have afforded to pay for trips abroad?</p> Have they ever had holes in their jeans or shoes as kids? </p> Upper Class Families have little experience of life out side of their Public Schools.</p> I was at Leeds Uni with a few of these upper class toffs who were educated at Radley College, not Wombwell High, and they were clueless as to what life was like for anyone outside their coccooned existance. </p> </p>
RE: But that applies to all politicians you could flip that round if you were upper class though and say "what experience do a lower class family have outside of their council estate" "how are they relevant to my life, they are clueless outside their coccooned council house exixtence"
yes but... ...I think that point that is being made is that more people live on council estates (sadly) than in the splendid millionaire lifestyle of Eaton and Harrow. There is more that needs to be done for the lowest income families because - quite simply - that is where most of the people sit socially and economically. It's all very well having an Eatonian Oxford graduate (who has come from generations of Eatonian Oxford graduates) saying 'the working classes know nothing outside of their council house existances' but that would simply confirm them to be unsuitable for public office and out of touch with what the country needs. There is nothing wrong with being educated. The objections to the old establishment taking over is not about the quality of their education - it is about their awareness of what is happening on an every day street level - it's about their ability to relate to everyday man, that really compromises their ability to make decisions that effect the lives of all of us. What to them seems like no money at all, to us might be sink or swim. I watched the Boris Johnson/David Cameron program last night. At one point they were talking about the dining society they were both in at Oxford. They were interviewing a lady who had been at Oxford at the time with both of them and took a dim view of the society. She mentioned that it cost them £2,500 to get the jackets they wore. She said ''£2,500 was a lot of money in 1983". Just about sums it up really.