Game changing subs.

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  1. redarmychris

    redarmychris Well-Known Member

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    Have we got any?

    Tomorrow night we're looking at a bench of -

    Dibble
    Bree
    M'voto
    Digby
    Nana
    Abott
    Rose

    Looks pretty weak to me. I'd say the only option we have to change a game or mix things up a little is M'voto upfront, which is always going to be a bit desperate.
     
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    I want to say Nana or Rose but they both were poor on saturday. Rose more than Nana.
     
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    Rose could change a game in the respect that he has a goal in him. But he's not a different option to what we already have.
     
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    Think Hemmings could be that player (once fit)
     
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    redarmychris Well-Known Member

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    Possibly. What about in midfield though?
     
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    I'd say Berry. Once Jennings is back and Treacy is fully fit. i can think of him not playing a lot but coming off the bench.
     
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    redarmychris Well-Known Member

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    From what we've seen so far I dont think there's anything to suggest that Berry can come on and offer something different. I dont think you quite understand what I mean by a game changing substitution.
     
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    I think it's far too early to make any decisions on that score. Nana, for example, came on with less than 15 minutes to go for his league debut and whilst we were down to ten men. To jump to any conclusions or criticisms of the lad's abilities based on that is, in my opinion, both unfair and disappointing. With this sort of impatience being shown, it's difficult to see any of our young players being allowed the time to develop properly.
     
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    It's not impatience. Nana could well be very useful off the bench. He's got great pace and power and looks a good finisher.

    But Saturday I heard a lot around be saying 'get M'voto on'. I think that in itself speaks volumes about our options from the bench.
     
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    I'm amazed at some of the things that have been said and written about Nana after just fifteen minutes. Some would have him shipped out on loan already because they have written him off as utter *****.

    Walking back up Oakwell hill on Saturday I heard these pearlers:

    Danny Rose: Cancel his contract, he's **** / get him sent to Bury / he wouldn't get in my Sunday league side / our lass would leather him, he will never be a footballer.

    Nana: He's **** / he's a pig in a poke / get him out on loan or send him back to the kids.

    There really is no patience at all.
     
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    This thread is denouncing and naming a number of our young, inexperienced players (both those from the Academy & those brought into the club this Summer) saying they're incapable of altering the flow of a match if/when required. It appears to me to be an assessment based on a single league game, nothing more. I'm sorry, but for me this epitomises the impatience & intolerance shown to the time needed in the development of young players which is so endemic in the modern game.
    If I have misinterpreted the thread then I apologise. But this is how it appears to me.
     
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    I heard similar. One bloke in particular was singling out Nana being criticised for not making any contribution after coming on for Rose (which he didn't) and shouldn't be picked again.
     
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    Nana is a good player. All young players in a similar age are the exact same when it comes to senior matches. They are going to look confused. At the end of the season Digby, Nana, Rose and a few others will look better and stronger on the ball. It's just in-experience. I know Nana is good, just that saturday he didn't do much in the 15 minutes of being on the field. He'll play longer tomorrow and hopefully will look a lot better and more threatening
     
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    My point, mate, was that NONE of the young lads who have been named should be criticised for being incapable or ineffective of changing the course of a game simply based on Saturday's match. It beggars belief that a young lad making his league debut coming on in the 78th minute of a match when we've been reduced to ten men should come in for any sort of criticism whatsoever.
     
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    You've completely misinterpreted the thread. I've been raving about Nana from what I've seen

    What I'm saying is we have a lot of like for like players. It's nothing to do with age or experience.
     
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    But we don't know they're like for like and incapable of offering a different option. If Abbott or Digby came on, for example, it could possibly free up both Berry & Hourihane to commit themselves more in the final third. Perhaps Danny Rose coming on could prove to be a difficult customer for a tiring defence. Bree may offer a more attacking threat down the right side if he were to take to the field.
     
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    Nana will be disappointed that he didnt contribute the equalising goal having got into a great position and getting his head to a ball just a few yards from goal.
    To be honest I thought Nana didnt really get into the game properly - not surprising as coming on into a 10 man side with only 15 mins to go so I have no idea whether he is any good or not. He didnt do any worse than Berry :) who was on for most of the game - but he too was finding his feet
     
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    Dunt always have to be a different option, just fresher legs.
     
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    That could very well be the case. If you look at my original post I was just posing a question. I'm not slating our younger players like you're suggesting.
     
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    Plenty of different options RNL, Abbott, Digby, Nana, Rose and Hemmings all provide different options and would be a genuinely threatening bench
     

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