Garbage..

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board ARCHIVE' started by Whitey, Aug 3, 2013.

  1. Whi

    Whitey Guest

    I saw the lineup today and expected a 352. As soon as I realised it was a 442 I feared a drubbing and said so to Bossman.
    Mellis may as well not be here if we're playing him wide right. And why are we? To accomodate Dawson? Because he offers what centrally that Mellis doesn't?
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    ****** off from 3pm I was. Can't believe he went 442 against bloody pass crazy Wigan. Just bizarre.
    Golbourne a winger? Jesus. Why do managers make things that are simple look so ******* difficult?
    I didn't expect us to win. Not even with a 352. But I challenge anybody on here to tell me we were right to play 442.
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    Thing is, as poor as we were, they were no better. And I could see us getting to half time at 0-0. But we then got sloppy and Wigan were fortunate when Grant Holt's blatant handball was missed and they subsequently smacked home the opener.
    Watson was it? Same player who had - along with Holt - made countless fouls that the fat ref seemed loathe to punish.
    First time we made a tackle, yellow card.
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    I kept waiting for us to change up, but it was dire from us. Aimless balls up to Daggers. Bizarre.
    Whenever Mellis got central we looked dangerous. But as I say, wasted out wide and I refuse to say he was poor. I'd be poor if asked to do sumat I wasn't clued up on.
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    The other Wigan goals were all soft and come about through the same garbage defending we've endured for years.
    We've pain on if we continue to defend like that.
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    Jennings' tackle looked fine to us. Nowhere near the bloke. But the Premier League crowding of the ref ensured a red card.
    I may be wrong, but I am looking forward to seeing the tackle again.
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    I expected a defeat, so it's not that that hurts. It's the silly formation, and, at times, poor work rate.
    Wigan are a good side. But they were average today and still dicked us.
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    I hope today was a blip. And I will be there no matter what. But 11,000 BFC fans turned up today. Guarantee a thousand don't come back after what was a garbage display.
     
  2. ryhilltyke

    ryhilltyke Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't a sending off for me, as i said elsewhere.
     
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    MrsHallsToffeerolls Well-Known Member

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    I didn`t think so either but would like to see it again, at the time I thought their player should have been booked for overplaying it.
     
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    It was a definite red card tackle


    Of boot was on other foot we would have beem up in arms
     
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    Not a bad post Whitey, I actually agree with some of what you say for a change. One thing I started to notice about Flicker last season (although he got away with it) was that he does seem to show favouritism towards Dawson. Doesn't sub when when he should and finds a place for him in the team ect. I like Dawson but he's only effective with quality players like Etuhu around him. He is definitely not good enough to be paired up with Perkins (no physical presence).

    I thought Golbourne played fairly well out wide but I 100% agree it should have been 3-5-2.

    No need to panic though Flicker and Mellon will get it right.
     
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    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    If you leave the ground with your feet in front of you in and your in a forward motion then you are deemed to not be in control of your own body this making yourself a danger to others, this is not a new rule its 18 months old at least,
     
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    Overreaction overload!
     
  8. Whi

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    The red card - warranted or not - was irrelevant.
    We set up wrong.
    Can't recall a shot on target.
    Sorry, but twas garbage.
     
  9. ryhilltyke

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    Why if someone has an opinion, does someone else always jump on it! it's not the same opinion as you or me, but he is allowed!
     
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    As I've said elsewhere, I don't think 3-5-2 would have worked today. The best way to counter it is to play wide players high up the pitch which is exactly how Wigan set up. Beausejour stayed well forward on the left and would have ripped Cranie to shreds on the break every time Wiseman pushed forward. The only player in our squad that managed to match him for pace was Wiseman, and even he got beaten to the ball on occasions.

    3-5-2 works brilliantly when they have two up front and four in midfield but today it would have left us with too many players in some areas of the pitch and not enough in others.

    However, I don't think a flat 4-4-2 was the way to go either. It let them dominate the middle of the park. I'd have preferred a diamond formation so we could dominate the middle and accommodate Mellis in his best position.
     
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    You will end up with an ulcer Whitey.
     
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    And another!
     
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    yeah maybe if we'd narrowly lost one nil and peppered their goal for 90 minutes! blatant issues to address, dont think its an over reaction to be honest.
     
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    problem is they may not cos flitcroft is already making it clear he will stick by his favourites. On top of that the defending including Luke Steele hasn't been improved on and as for our set pieces absolutely woe ful.
     
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    I think to suggest that Wigan were 'average' or 'no better than us' is just wrong. Sorry Whitey. Not much argument with the rest.
     
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    Wigan were fantastic. They got between our lines, used their midfield 3 to boss it and had pace out wide with Holt offering presence up top.

    Dawson and Perkins were being asked to sit on 3 players and it never worked. If Mellis had been brought behind the front two at least we would have matched em - wing backs would've given us more cover on their wide players too.

    Mistake from 3pm and it's down to Flitcroft. Let's hope he sees it.
     
  17. Whi

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    First half I said. They were average. But everything I say is my own opinion. There to be shot at.
    No worries at all, matey.
     
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    Don't you think it was almost job done first half we weatered the early pressure and were just starting to get into the game. The long range goal change the game and we had no answer.
     
  19. Whi

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    Having now read the board, the general consensus seems to suggest Wigan were quality today, so perhaps my 'average' verdict was harsh.
    But that doesn't alter my opinion that we set up wrong, wasted Mellis (and allowed Maloney to run the midfield) and defended as badly as last season.
    I just hope Wigan were indeed 'that' good and we will fare better against Scunny, Blackpool and Charlton. Because right now, that game today has firmly sunk me so far as optimism goes. Which is a shame.
     
  20. Whi

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    I suppose so, mate.
    But I don't recall us worrying about the opposition last season under Flicker, certainly not at home. I prefer my side to worry them. Play to our strengths.
    And if any of these local journalists are serious journos, they ought to ask him what the **** is he doing playing Mellis wide.
    It beggars belief.
     

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