Genuine question

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  1. troff

    troff Well-Known Member

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    We seem to have turned a corner under LJ, I admit it seems I was wrong to state him to be as poor as I've often said (I'm still not convinced he's quite what some in here appear to believe but he's done exactly what he needed to do).

    But given everything we've seen, would it be such a bad thing if Brizzle gave us a few quid for him?

    There's bound to be enough options to replace him with somebody out of work - I'd still take Nigel Adkins despite not pulling trees up at sheff Utd as one example - and if our stated game plan is to take talent and make profit on it, then surely the manager can be deemed a saleable asset as much as the centre forward?

    LJ has done well since before Christmas, I gladly accept that, but winnall would be a bigger miss. With Hammill out for a month or so, should ssw be sold too , I Fear for the next few games whoever is in charge.
     
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    My jury is still out on Lee, but I like the fella and want him to do well at Oakwell. Seasonal hiring and firing has been nothing but disastrous for a long time. My opinion is that LJ is still learning his trade and was a dubious appointment when he arrived, especially considering the manager he replaced. But now he's addressed the issues and sorted out a lot of problems, we should stick with him and give him our support.

    Yours humbly....
     
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    it would pi$$ me off for lots of reasons to be honest. to the point where i probably wouldn't give a **** what they did next. it's just odds on a website though, so i'm not worrying about it too much at the mo..
     
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    ...outside and shoot him.
     
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    Can't say it would be the end of the world. He's a young hungry guy learning the game there are plenty kicking round.
     
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    Bizarrely given recent results and our (quite correct) persevering with Johnson after the bad run and in the face of mainly web based noise for him to go I reckon we're a better prospect for a prospective new gaffer than we've been for a while.
     
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    I think we'd just look a bit daft after sticking by him - whatever the reasons for sticking by him might have been/are.

    I'm glad he's turned a corner and is starting to prove a lot of folk wrong- me included.
     
  8. tobyornottoby

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    What is a genuine question?
     
  9. troff

    troff Well-Known Member

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    One that isn't designed as a wind up
     
  10. troff

    troff Well-Known Member

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    In answer to my own question - don't let him go.

    He has something here, and so if we're keeping Ssw, then he has to stay. Has to.

    If however the team is being broken up by selling its best playing asset, then cashing in on the manager as well might be considered. I hope neither go.

    I will put it out there. I wanted LJ out. I also said I'd admit when he proved me wrong. I reckon winning six on the bounce and getting us top half before the end of January has achieved that. So (in the knowledge that these boards are read by the club)...

    My apologies Mr Johnson. I always thought you were a good, eloquent and decent bloke, though I now also believe you are a talented and able football manager. I would say the place we sit in the table is no higher than where we should be, and that the loss of eight consecutive league games was and remains unacceptable, but you kept your job, and have proven, at least to me, why that was the correct decision. Having worked so hard to turn this club around, please stay. And keep your team together as well. Surely we don't have to sell the Crown Jewels just yet?
     
  11. tobyornottoby

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    That's all well and good Troff, but LJ knows that if we lose the next 5 in a row that you're a fair weather short termist who'll be demanding his departure.

    S'all about credibility, ya see.
     
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    troff Well-Known Member

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    Who the **** are you to summise that about me - or anybody? Get felt with your credibility.

    In the midst of his losing run there were no grounds to suggest he had the ability to turn it around. He had no history to suggest it and, something which influenced my opinion as much as the actual results, his teams played tepid, ineffective, boring football.

    He has changed that. If he went on another losing run, which is perfectly possible, he has at least now proven he has the ability to turn it around. So I have the humility to accept that in that I was wrong.

    You are wrong in that should he lose a few on the bounce I'd demand him out. I wouldn't. He's now proven that he can change his outlook and turn teams fortunes around.

    It does not make me a fair weather short termist. But then again anyone admitting they were wrong about LJ won't be enough will it? Despite the fact that a large proportion had the same opinion, all that can ever be thrown at us will be that we have no long term thoughts or ambitions.

    Well sorry threadstopper. I'm not having that. I might not have been right, but I'm no fair weather fan.
     
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    Nigel adkins is too soft.

    He isn't controlling that side. So I've been told
     
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    Shurrup yer pillock.
     
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    Well he's still favourite for the job, but then they're often wrong. Nothing surprises me, but I'd be surprised if they offered it to him and he took it.
     
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    You're obviously no fair weather fan.

    And you might not yet be wrong if you wanted him out.

    But if you wanted him gone, and he had gone, then for ever he would have been useless.

    That's the trouble. People have no responsibility for what they say on here. All they can lose is their credibility.
     
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    troff Well-Known Member

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    I've taken responsibility- and said I was wrong.

    This is a fans forum, for opinions. On this occasion my opinion wasn't right - or at least at the moment it seems that way. We'd be better judging around Christmas after he's had another summer and his three windows.

    There are plenty of conflicting opinions on many subjects on the bbs, which is why I use it. It's nice to gauge other people's thoughts and maybe have the odd debate.

    My opinion is never likely to influence the club on its own, my only responsibility is to keep what I say within site rules.

    I've never not supported the team, never booed them, and never wished them to lose just to prove myself right.

    Some have, that's their right but it isn't my agenda.

    For what it's worth my opinion now is that the club need to hold on to everyone, staff and players, and see what we can achieve by May.

    I'll admit I did not think we'd be within five points of the playoffs at the end of January but we are. We are the form side, nobody wants to play us, let's not break it up
     

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