respect. told Cole and Lampard that Chelseas discipline was terrible, that he'd seen them diving about against Barcelona and that they needed to be taught a lesson. implied that he was going to card and send off one of them for playacting, that they needed to have a word with certain team mates. disallowed Drogba's goal, sent Terry off and then reported them for harrassment, hehe, top bloke in my book.
Disagree completely Steve... The guys got an go the size of China and actually thinks that people actually go to watch him ref a game and not the game itself.
Chelsea, hard done to? totally detest refs wanting make a name and Poll's just as attention seeking as Rennie, but when Chelsea are moaning about being hard done to, that they've been caught out for diving and the worlds against them, cant help but see the irony. If he could just send off Ronaldo for the same, he'd do for me.
totally wrong attitude for a ref That was why morgan used to get booked or sent off for nothing challenges.</p> Ref's should go into each game with an open mind and book players if they deserve one in that match, not go into it thinking 'their number 8 is a cheat, i'll book him first chance i get'.</p>
it's fine if he says it to both teams but you can't just say to one 'you lot dive all the time, i know you do, first time you go to ground you're in the book'. A ref at the top level can't go into games with a mindset that one team are cheats, they have to see both teams equally before the whistle is blown and if they can't do that then they shouldnt be doing their job.</p>
Come on, worst culprit should be warned I'd like to see Drogba tackle Ronaldo when United play Chelsea, it'll be like watching a remake of Godber's boxing match in Porridge. worst thing about the game at the minute is the diving, cheating the fans out of seeing a decent football match 11 v 11, and it more power to a ref taking a stand.
By that theory Ref's should warn Kay before the start of the match about fouling attackers when he is the last man. He's done it a few times so the ref should tell him that he knows what he's like and he'll walk if he does it.</p> Then the ref will be going into the game with the opinion already formed that Kay is a cheat who will try to bring down strikers when they are through on goal and as soon as there is minimal contact and a player goes down Kay will be off, even if it wasn't a foul because the ref will already have it in his mind that Kay does it all the time.</p> That's exactly what used to happen with Morgan, he was a marked man by certain premiership ref's and he was treated differently to other defenders at times.</p> Now theres nothing wrong with a ref booking or sending Drogba off if he see's him dive in a match but why is there any need to already be thinking about it before the match starts? And why is there any need to single certain players out and point out a rule that everybody already knows? </p>
Hold on The referees chief has rightly pointed out that the referee and linesmen are wired up with open microphones and that everything they say before & during the game is heard, and that the people listening to that particular game flatly denied that Poll had said anything of the sort.</p> Or do we just believe everything Chelsea say?</p>
wouldnt be the first cover up by ref's Im not saying that chelsea are little angels (they dive about all over the place and i cant stand them personally), i'm just looking at it from the point of view that it could and has happened against barnsley in the past.</p> The ref against leeds was on about 6 cameras but it didnt stop him pushing richards in the face at one point.</p>
In context Chelsea (like some other teams) generally surround the ref and try to intimidate to get a decision, Poll I would imagine has said to Cole (who is one of the worst for this) "come on, you aint gonna get away with that with me" admittedly his choice of phrase can be misconstrued, but the point he was making is absolutely spot on. Barcelona v Chelsea shouldve been the best game of the season, but turned into a farse. the Spurs game was one of the best I've seen this season, maybe the way the games were refereed made the difference. clumsy challenges by centre halves arent spoiling the game imho, diving and trying to get other players sent off by pressurising the ref is.
you're right, it is Diving is spoiling the game (amongst other things), but it should be dealt with at the time by the ref or afterwards by the FA/UEFA/FIFA, not in a different match by a referee setting out to teach someone a lesson.</p> Of course Poll might nto have done that but if he did then it is wrong.</p> Diving needs to be stopped by the referee's taking action against players as soon as they do it and by fining the club's every time and even taking away points when it is done a certain number of times, it's the only way to hurt the teams like chelsea.</p> As mentioned in the thread about rotherham's administration, players leaving te field of play after recieving treatment is ruining the game too, we need to adopt a european policy on it and fetch the stretcher on every time a physio comes onto the pitch and get the player off straight away.</p>
RE: you're right, it is Diving is not the only thing ruining the game, what about obstruction. Today it's called 'shielding the ball'!
