Had an article published on Keith Hill and our current situation...

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board ARCHIVE' started by MonkeyRed, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. MonkeyRed

    MonkeyRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    2,620
    Likes Received:
    3,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bratfud
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
  2. ryhilltyke

    ryhilltyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2006
    Messages:
    9,901
    Likes Received:
    287
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Occupation:
    Construction Worker
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    What fecking green shoots, think you've been on the ganja mate. A new manager might go forward, might get crosses and shots in on goal. If we're going down, let's go down giving it a go.
     
  3. MonkeyRed

    MonkeyRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    2,620
    Likes Received:
    3,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bratfud
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Haha no, not those green shoots! Listening to his interview after the Burnley game, he sounded as if he was disappointed with the players for not getting the ball in early enough.

    Didn't see the Watford game so can't comment on whether it was any different, but hopefully we'll start to give it a go as you say in future.
     
  4. madmark62

    madmark62 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2006
    Messages:
    20,282
    Likes Received:
    190
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Floating along lifes waterways
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    While I think you have put your opinion over well, that is all it is mate , your opinion and not one that I agree with. If it was just a blip from after the Brum game i would be inclined to agree with you, but if you continually bleat about having no money, how everyone else has better players etc, then have a look at YOUR team and find you have 40 players to choose from, it looks like you are abundantly blessed with riches ! If these players are not good enough then why but the feckers? Then we can look at the tactics, the ones that have brought us the least number of goals (equal) in the division, having no width on the field because you play the wingers on the wrong side and they continually cut inside, then there is the fact that we are so bloody slow at going forwards it makes it impossible to pass the ball to your forwards in any decent position. Then there is the whole playing right back in centre of defence, a centre back at rightback, a supposed ball playing defender that cannot actually pass the ball to any teammates and is bloody rubbish at defending as well. Then you could mention that the main striker we have ends up so far wide he is wasted, because there is not any other player out there!Then there is all the guff about Hassell !
    So then I think we are quickly getting to the point of no return, because Hill will not get us back up if we do go down, his record in league one is not that clever either. someone has to step up and take a grip of the situation and quickly !!
     
  5. MonkeyRed

    MonkeyRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    2,620
    Likes Received:
    3,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bratfud
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Thanks madmark, I do actually agree with a lot of your points aswell.

    I can't really back Keith up when it comes to the defensive situation and would love to see some width in the side like you mention.

    Although at least the penny DOES seem to have dropped that some of his signings aren't good enough, rather that and end up with a squad of 40 than carry on slugging away with a poorer quality squad of 30.

    But as I say, can't think of anyone to come in that I'd be confident of turning things around with the players we've got.

    We've played sides off the park and beaten them already this season and last so lets hope we can get back to that, cos whatever we all think, I can't see Keith being sacked unless a takeover goes through.
     
  6. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    43,342
    Likes Received:
    31,970
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    On Sofa
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Good piece that mate. I don't necessarily agree with it all, but a good read none the less.
     
  7. Durkar Red

    Durkar Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2005
    Messages:
    12,140
    Likes Received:
    8,207
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Exorcist
    Location:
    err..durkar
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
  8. Whi

    Whitey Guest

    As a fellow writer, may I thank you for your article, which was put together well and very good to read. Quality.
    I admire your belief in KK, too. But, and for a lot of the reasons you outlined yourself, I gave up on my messiah over the last few weeks. Turns out he's just another manager unable to take this great club forward.
    I do still back him, for now, but my faith went a while ago.
     
  9. sim

    simplepeaches New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2011
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Bit harsh that statement, considering he's only managed in League One for a single season. And he did finish 9th, 3pts off the play offs. Which was Rochdale's highest league finish in 40 odd years. And they finished above Wednesday and Charlton. And somehow got 17 goals out of Gary Jones. Not too shabby
     
  10. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2008
    Messages:
    40,155
    Likes Received:
    7,178
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Project Manager
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I'm also in the 'lost faith'camp. I had immense belief in Hill until recently but its just gone now and unless things change I can't see it coming back. I thought your article was good and I did agree with some points but not all. He has to sort the formation issues, play his best team (not his mates) and eat a lot of humble pie regarding the Hassle situation that he alone has created.
     
  11. JLWBigLil

    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Messages:
    50,819
    Likes Received:
    32,826
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    That is a well written article, mate

    I don't agree with everything you've said, but you've put forward a well reasoned argument. Merlin & yourself ought to be extremely proud of yourselves with regards to the quality of your articles this season.
    Once again, well done mate.
     
  12. Mr C

    Mr C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Messages:
    24,964
    Likes Received:
    15,739
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Saving the world.
    Location:
    Wentworth
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Re: That is a well written article, mate

    Very well written and an enjoyable read Kev - and as close to my own point of view as anyone is likely to get.

    But just because I choose to stick by Keith Hill doesn't mean he's in any way beyond reproach. In fact he needs a good arse kicking if anything, particularly regarding the back four farce and Hassellgate. If we lose Luke Steele after he's pledged his commitment, my opinion on Hill will radically change. :)
     
  13. Pas

    Pasta Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2009
    Messages:
    2,835
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    In a good place...
    Home Page:
    Mario......the voice of reason.......fully agreed with you

    Anyway, the question that has alwasy intrigued me is : why Mario Kempes and not Leopoldo Luque?
     
  14. Tyk

    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Messages:
    9,995
    Likes Received:
    13,531
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Dry buumer
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Re: That is a well written article, mate

    I'm very proud of the quality of my articles.
     
  15. JLWBigLil

    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Messages:
    50,819
    Likes Received:
    32,826
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    So you should be

    As you're one of the most talented, witty contributors historically on the BBS, the only draw back is you don't post anywhere near enough these days. Even when you're posting things I don't like, or disagree with, I still enjoying your postings.
    Pick up the pace!
     
  16. car

    caretaker New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    youth services
    Location:
    barnsley
    good article
     
  17. John Peachy

    John Peachy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2011
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    17,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The littlest hobo
    Location:
    Leeds, United Kingdom
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    good read that.

    I think it is pretty balanced - it points out the concerns over the defence & some of keith's decisions i.e. bobby, whilst making the point for continuity in the absence of any obvious heir apparant.
     
  18. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    43,342
    Likes Received:
    31,970
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    On Sofa
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Re: That is a well written article, mate

    I'm a bit disappointed with mine. I could go on at length about the reasons...
     
  19. Ext

    Extremely Northern Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Messages:
    11,753
    Likes Received:
    1,949
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professional Northerner.
    Location:
    Preparing for the 4th division
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Re: That is a well written article, mate

    I shave mine.
     
  20. MonkeyRed

    MonkeyRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    2,620
    Likes Received:
    3,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bratfud
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Thanks Merlin, I've enjoyed reading your pieces this season too which have all been excellent and echoed many of my sentiments. Looking forward to reading many more :)
     

Share This Page