hamilton demoted to 3rd

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  1. kin

    kingster New Member

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    anybody know why and what for??
     
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    ...because he doesn't drive a Ferrari

    FIA cnuts.
     
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    Where have you heard that?
     
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    it's on the BBC site

    doesn't say why.

    What a load of ****.
     
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    because he blatantly cheated

    now I am a big Hamilton fan, but having passed Kimi by cutting the corner he only let him past once he was back to racing speed and only let him far enough past so he was certain to pass using slipstream at the first corner. The whole point of letting him back past is to negate any advantage you have gained, whereas here he manipulated the situation to actually gain an advantage - if Kimi had stayed behind he would have got the slipstream and the fair thing for Lewis to do would have been to wait until at least the top of the hill before trying again from a fair starting position.
     
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    It now says

    For gaining an advantage when he cut the chicane as he overtook Raikkonen.

    In my opinion that's a load of ballacks as Hamilton let Raikkonen back through.
     
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    Whilst I agree

    Ultimately there was no advantage as Raikkonen didn't finish the race.
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    RE: Whilst I agree

    Yeah but had he not taken Raikkonen, Raikkonen might not have spun off chasing Hamilton.
     
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    RE: Whilst I agree

    hamiltons team need to appeal big time. ferrari runs that sport simple as. cheating gets.
     
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    RE: it's on the BBC site

    Can't understand that. I did wonder whether Lewis would get punished as it could have been judged that he gained by taking the slip road on the overtake of Raikkonen. However, it appeared to me that he gave the lead back to Raikkonen. Maybe the powers that be haven't seen it like that? Either way, their decision has spoilt one of the best races I've seen in a while.
     
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    in fact, having watch it again. raikonnen pushed hamilton off the track in the first place causing him to take the short cut. what a fecking joke. surely they will win an appeal.
     
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    The decision is the right one

    Hamilton took the lead by cutting the corner and then never gave the lead back. Yes he went behind Kimi for a couple of seconds but only in a worked way to ensure that he came out of the series of corners in front.

    To look at it from a footballing perspective, he fouled the opposition, pased the ball to them so that advantage was given instead of a foul and then took his legs out from under him a second later.
     
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    They wont win an appeal

    The sport stinks

    Last race Massa broke the rules in an identical way to an offence in previous GP2 - In that race they handed a drive though straight away

    Stewards noticing it was a Ferrari decided to wait till after the race when they could clear it with those above and gave a slap on the wrist

    If this had been the other way round does anyone seriously think a Ferrari would have been penalised - dead cert they wouldnt

    In any case I dont agree with the fact he gained an unfair advantage

    He got his nose ahead of the Ferrari going into the corner - but Kimi let his car drift out and pushed Lewis off the track. Hamilton had no choice but to go down the escape road he then lifted off the throttle on the straight and let Kimi back - but outbraked him into the next corner - it wasnt that he used the slipstream to slingshot past - he was more confident on the brakes.

    The fact is there are some who dont like McClaren and like Ferrari and will use whatever influence they can to ensure the rules are interpereted differently .

    Oh and in any case Kimi got back past a couple of corners later when the Williams got in the way and Lewis went off .
     
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    Awful decision. Kimi pushed Lewis off the race track. He had no option but to run wide. He let him past and then past him again. Whats he supposed to do? Give Kimi a 1 second lead before he decides to carry on again? On the last corner they were side by side, and Hamilton was forced off the race track. He let Kimi go back in front. Should have been end of discussion.
     
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    No it wasnt

    And your analogy is wrong in any case.

    Lewis got slightly ahead into the corner and only took the slip road to avoid a collision as Kimi pushed him off the track - he had no need to take the slip road because he got the corner wrong - only because he was pushed by Kimi

    To be safe he gave Kimi the position back - the fact is he was better under braking - Kimi had the racing line and the faster straight line speed its just he braked earlier .

    even if you take your analogy of a football - a better example would be a player is offside so he doesnt play the ball and let the opposition get the ball - he then returns to a position that would have been onside in any case but the opposition player makes a mistake and passes the ball back to him.

    Go on be honest if it had been a complete reversal with Kimi coming from behind do you really think he would have been penalised - giving McClaren and advantage
     
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    I agree mate

    Absolute and utter joke.
     

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