Harsh but true?

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  1. MPM

    MPM Well-Known Member

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    Muller - over rated. Cash in if we can.

    Hassell - decent defender but poor distribution.

    Kozluk - best out and out defender we have.

    Foster - another quality defender.

    Moore - shocking distribution to the detriment of any pattern of play being able to develop. Although, an ok (ish) defender.

    Souza - time to go.

    Anderson - either over rated or just getting worse. Needs to start getting hold of games and contributing much much more.

    Colace - a solid performer but needs someone alongside him that can benefit from his work rate and get the team moving forward, which Anderson just doesn't do.

    Andranik - similar to Anderson but with a little more drive. He'll be gone at the end of his loan.

    JCR - some ability but has lost his way since Davey filled him too much of his own importance and started playing him out of position. PLay him on the right wing and he's a good player.

    Macken - tidy footballer but no threat anymore. Kind of pointless.

    Mifsud - ball never played into feet or into any decent space for him to utilise. Have to question service to him .

    Just my views on some of our more discussed players. Some of the talk on here suggests that we're a gnats c0ck away from being a very good side. I'd beg to differ. We have some very delusional fans who genuinely believe the likes of Anderson, Muller et al are up there with the best in this division. We have few players of real quality and even less who impose themselves onto games consistently.

    Against Forest it was two poor teams who are near the bottom of the league on merit and both teams will struggle to stay up.

    I only hope we do but suggest that massive strides have to be taken this summer IF we are lucky enough to escape the drop this time.
     
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    Dyson Well-Known Member

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    Harsh & wrong.
     
  3. Thrappo Tyke

    Thrappo Tyke Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts

    Don't agree on a few of those. </p>

    I think we should keep Muller personally, I don't know if we'd get much for him if we decided to sell</p>

    Hassell's distribution has improved enormously, he's become a very decent all round sort of player now</p>

    I think Kozluk can be a very good defender, but his distribution (in my opinion is poor), and he makes too many rash challenges still.</p>

    Agree on Foster, but I think Moore is MUCH more than ok ish. He's become a real star at the back for me, something we've not had in a long time. Real power and strength, and a presence at both ends</p>

    Undecided on Souza, but I'm finding myself thinking you're probably right. We could do better</p>

    Anderson, for me, is still the best footballer at the club, some of the things he can do are a class above, and his vision is far superior to anyone else we have</p>

    Colace - one of the buys of the last 5 years or so - real gem and huge credit to Davey</p>

    Think I probably agree on the rest - JCR still has the potential to be a match winner whereever he is played, and as much as I like Macken, we've seen his best now
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    MexboroughTyke Well-Known Member

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    Anderson has been played more out on the right lately.

    When we signed he was more of a defensive midfielder to play next to Howard, but now he's had to become more of a creative midfielder with Howard leaving and Colace coming in.

    Souza is okay, good enough for back up and that's all if we want to progress.
     
  5. MPM

    MPM Well-Known Member

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    It's not intended to be a provocative post. Just my thoughts based on how the season has and is panning out.
     
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    Reverend_T_Preedy New Member

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    Anderson

    Is a central midfielder. When he plays there his physical presence, pace and drive make the team tick, espcially alongside Colace. However, he's been played out wide for some reason which means he and we have lost some bite in midfield.

    Andranik/Hammil on the left, Colace and Anderson in the middle and JCR wide right. Our best midfield by far and in my opinion one of the best in this league.

    Hassell is a solid but unspectacular defender which is exactly what you need when you have an out and out winger in the team (ie JCR). Moore lacks pace but reads the game better than any of our other defenders and is commanding in the air. Foster is a class act, no question. I like Kozluk but it doesn't work with him on the left with Andranik. If Hammil played wide left then you need to play narrow at the back and don't need attacking full backs. However, when you play narrow on the left of midfield you need someone to go beyond the midfield.

    We are ***** up front, no question. Bogdanovic is better than Mifsud
     
  7. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    Agree with some but Moore is a lot more than an ok (ish) defender. One you did forget was Davey so I've done the honours:

    Davey - was given the job on the back of an embarrassing no show against the dee dars. Should never have got the job in the first place but has become fire-proof in the light of two wins against Liverpool and Chelski. No idea about tactics or formations, has possibly the worst away record in the history of the world ever and has not taken us forward in terms of the league position and football played despite being backed to the hilt by the chairman. Utterly woeful.
     
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    Muller - over rated?!?

    Some people have short memories about the ***** keepers we've had over the years.

    Best we've had for years.
     
  9. SuperTyke

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    No better than luke steele

    or for that matter scott flinders
     
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    RE: No better than luke steele

    No better than Scott Flinders? The same guy who has done precisely nothing since he left us?
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    RE: No better than luke steele

    Its probably just about possible to argue that he's no better than Luke Steele. I disagree, but its arguable.

    You're living in cloud-cuckoo land if you think he's no better than Scott Flinders.

    Deary me.

    Did anyone see that header on Saturday that he tipped onto the post? It was practically in the net when he got his hand to it. Wouldn't have counted but he wasn't to know that, it was a ridiculous save.

    Scott Flinders and Heinz Muller. Not even close to being a comparison.
     
  12. SuperTyke

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    Ok maybe not flinders. Steele is the better keeper of the two though. Muller was awful on saturday
     
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    My thoughts!

    MULLER - He is a good shot stopper BUT his kicking and distribution of late has been awful.

    HASSELL - He has been our best performer this season. Hes a good defender and since he played in midfielder, his distribution has got a hell of a lot better!

    KOZLUK - He is not a good defender! Always sliding in, doesn't stay on his feet but he is playing LB and he is right footed. Better going forward than anything.

    FOSTER - Look solid when he is in the back 4 but needs to improve on playing the ball out. Has been a good captain through difficult times

    MOORE - Agreed shocking distribution but he does have a bionic head or something. Heads everything but seriously lacks pace

    SOUZA - Lacks pace and cant play the ball out, ok for cover but there is far better

    ANDERSON - In my opinion, the best footballing brain we have at the club and has played well in recent games. Up and down with the form in general though.

    COLACE - Good signing, had a good season. Good passer and a decent shot but you can tell he is south american with some of the 50/50 challenges.

    ANDRANIK - Ok player, thats about it. Ok at passing but he is a little too big for his boots.

    JCR - Ability he has but he is arogant and thinks he can take on entire teams. Goes past a player, beats them, then wants another go! why? Would be a much poorer team without him though.

    HAMMILL - This guy is class and will be a very good player when he gets a little older. We have no chance of getting him at the end of the season but would love it we did.

    BOGDANOVIC - Gives 100% but lacks pace. Clearly a good finisher but does drop too deep.

    MACKEN - Knocking on a bit - lacks pace and touch not what it was. Finishing not as good as it was and also thinks he is better than what he is.

    MIFSUD - Fast is his major asset and has stamina but, he cant dribble, slightly better finisher than KO but again thinks he is better than what he is.
     
  14. SuperTyke

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    I saw that decent save. Made it lok bloody good again didnt he.

    I also saw him glued to his line again making colgan look mobile. I saw him let one hit his bar straight down the middle of the net, and one fly past him into it. I saw him slicing the ball a few times while trying to kick it and attempting to punch the ball only to miss hit it completely twice in a row. I aw his attempts to catch it that had the ball dropped a few times. Shocking performance and if steele doesnt get a chance after that then something is wrong
     
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    He had a shocker. Especially in first half. Steele should have been back in a few weeks ago. To be fair, he did nowt wrong to be dropped. I honestly don't think that playing Steele would have any detrimental effect so he should be given a game. Nobody expects us to win at Sheff U so it's the perfect game to chuck him in. Can't see Davey having the b0ll0cks to do it though. I do think Muller is the better keeper (just) but his current form isn't up to scratch.
     
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    Aye, alright then. **** me.
     
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    RE: My thoughts!

    Agree about Kozluk but is Mifsud realy that fast he seems to run out of steam after 2 yard.
     
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    War Tyke New Member

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    How about this for harsh but true - you are a ****.

    You have no idea. After Saturday the only one who deserves any criticism is Mifsud - he was garbage - ball played into feet! FFS his second touch was a tackle.
     
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    Wasn't that just outlined above. I said that he thinks he is better than what he is and i said his finishing is not good.

    Clearly you all foam and no beer.
     
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    War Tyke New Member

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    I wasnt talking to you - talking to MPM.
     

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