Has this government no grasp whatsoever of the lessons history shows us.

They have committed more troops to Afghanistan despite the recent fatalities and the fact that we failed many years ago to tame the land and since then others have tried and failed, even the Russians with their vast manpower and arms capabilities gave up and went home.

Now he (Brown) has opened his big gob he has written more death warrants for our lads.

 

unfortunately when Bush shouts **** Brown like his predessor jumps on the shovel.

 

Georgey boy wants to find Bin Laden before he goes!

Trying to go out in a blaze of glory! (wnkr)

 

Deploy the ones in Iraq into Afghanistan.

 

"The Russians with their vast manpower and capabilties".....

Are you sure you're not confusing the Russian army with the Russian vodka making industry? Very little military funding here, and no professional army to speak of means it's a disorganized rabble, full of 17 year old conscripts, often uneducated and always from poor backgrounds (the better off families chuck a bribe to make sure their kids don't have to do military service), using outdated equipment and having the **** kicked out of them at every touch and turn by alcoholic senior officers. Every operation these buffoons attempt to carry out ends in disaster - the Moscow theatre and Beslan school "rescues" come to mind. Vast capabilites I think not......

 

That is now. remember they were in Afghanistan when they still had the remnents of the old system.

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160 years ago....

http://www.britishbattles.com/first-afghan-war/kabul-gandamak.htm

 

Why is the war in Afganistan in our National Interest

The Excuse is it would become a haven for terrorists and their training camps. So why not pull out and wait for it to happen and if this was a threat to our national security, bomb them and fire the poppy fields. At least we would have a target. Just now they are shadows in the night.

 

RE: Why is the war in Afganistan in our National Interest

Its already a haven for extremists training to kill, to be fair, im sure i remember that the threat to national security has already happened, hijacked planes killing thousands of innocents in the twin towers and on the flights themselves, plus the small matter of blowing up a few trains and buses in London.</p>

Brown is no where near the right man, but something has to be done. As if we bomb them as suggested we would have a target, surely that would kill innocent people from their countries as well.</p>

Glad it aint down to me to find the solution..........</p>

 

How about this?

If we stay in Iraq and Afghanistan then the troops over there are an easier target to aim at than people over here.

 

RE: Why is the war in Afganistan in our National Interest

The 9/11 bombers were mainly from Saudi Arabia.

It's ok, George will sort it........

Although this one is my favourite........

 

Well worth viewing-45 mins

Bremner Bird and Fortune's factual but funny account of Afghanistan's history</p>

http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2006/12/17/bbf_afghanistan.rm</p>

needs real media or equivalent</p>

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RE: Why is the war in Afganistan in our National Interest

They were Saudis, thats ok then, they are allowed to murder, silly me....(dunno) (dunno) </p>

 

RE: Why is the war in Afganistan in our National Interest

if taliban/ al-qaida was a national threat to usa or to us, why did they the government in USA let them in 5 months before 9/11? osama was all ready then in afghanistan, and they have bombed a USA embassy in Africa, and bombed USS Cole.

 

Paraphrasing George Orwell's 1984.

The government in power has to have an "enemy" to stop the population focusing directly on it. Now that it's not the Dutch, Spanish, French, Boers, Germans, Russians, or Chinese, the "enemy" is "terrorists" in Afghanistan.

 

RE: That is now. remember they were in Afghanistan when they still had the remnents of the old syste

Sorry mate, didn't read the first post carefully. Understand where you're coming from now.......