Hate to say it but Wisemen at fault for both goals... Failing to clear

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  1. Joh

    Johnny the tyke Well-Known Member

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    Dear o dear... Much as I like what hill flicker are trying to do. We need results and if necessary some ugly wins. Big big game next week... I wonder if the losing manager may lose their job. Both under pressure and desperate for a win. I am generally optimistic but even I and nervous with us scoring just 8 goals in 10games at home a-bys-mal!
    You talk the talk Keith now back that up with a win... And FFS don't play Scotty at centre back. If a striker has scored 2-in-2 don't drop him... You really do make me wonder sometimes.

    Steele, fossy & bobby are the foundation of this squad with experience and passion. They must play.
     
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    I hate to say it but Hassell should be given a run at CH.

    Wiseman isn't a Championship player that's why he is making so many key mistakes just like McNulty does.

    We need to sign defenders of Championship quality.
     
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    Wiseman needs to **** right off, in my opinion, which I don't hate to say :D
     
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    I am starting to think that Hill would rather us be relegated or get sacked than back down and admit defeat over his centre half boys. He drops Foster for nothing and has frozen Bobby out completely yet the dynamic duo seem untouchable. He dropped Wiseman but brought him back without a reason so it now appears to have been a token gesture to shut the fans up. And why he dropped our most in-form striker only he will ever know.
     
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    In fairness, if he wanted to switch to 4-5-1 (which will get the best out of RNL & O'Brien, and also allow us to carry immobile central midfielders) then he had to make a decision between dropping Davies or Tudgay. Not that easy a decision really, regardless of whether Tudgay has scored 2 in 2.
     
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    Both Cranie and Wiseman were at fault for both goals in my opinion. Cranie less so for the second.
     
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    Just seen now on iplayer. Had Wiseman just put his foot through it both times we might have got a different result. You can't be hesitant in 90th minute. I don't think Foster would have been naive
     
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    But Foster would have been slagged off for being a big boot merchant! Especially by his manager!
     
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    Just seen the goals, a you having a laugh at blaming wiseman for they second??? Come on for **** sake
     
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    Completely agree about Foster. I'd love to know why Hill keeps dropping him because although he has limitations at this level he is a better more experienced defender than either Wiseman or McNulty. Personally from the games I have seen I think Foster is having a decent season.
     
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    As much as I'd question Wiseman's ability as a central defender, I do think people should draw the line before attacking him personally - he doesn't pick his himself and he obviously doesn't go out there with the intention of making mistakes, although it seems many folk are looking for any reason to pin the blame on him.

    Have Foster and Cranie played together at centre-half? I'm sure that combo would placate most people. I wouldn't be against Bobby having a go but I can't see Keith backing down on that one.
     
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    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    Thinking the same.When a team is having a bad run fans need a scapegoat,Wiseman is the target at the moment.At the start of the season when we were playing quite well and getting results not many mentioned "what's Hill doing playing him at centre half".Rob Staton mentioned last week on his programme that Wiseman was selected for his pace and in fairness he hadn't seen him have a bad game for us.Would I play him at centre half ?would I play Bobby?personally I would play a fit Rob Edwards.Opinions heh.
     
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    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

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    first goal he seems to win a tackle and unfortunately it drops to one on the City players
     
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    Are you sure you've seen it?............he tries to clear the ball....no tackle involved at all......and miskicks it straight to a Leicester player.
     
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    Is this the same kind of tackle that hemsworth tyke used to talk about Hugo colace making? The ones where the conversation went like this...

    Hemsworth: he tackled the ball
    Everyone else: Yes but there was nobody around him, that's just called kicking the ball
    hemsworth: No the ball was going one way and he stopped it and kicked it the other way, he tackled the ball.
     
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  16. tyr

    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

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    only saw if briefly on FL show a\nd i had a few cans, clearly i was wrong
     
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    You usually are concerning Wiseman !:p
     
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    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

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    i just dont think he is as bad you lot make out
     
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  19. SuperTyke

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    How many cans and how brief does your view have to be to completely imagine a player stood there? There was nobody near him and he kicked it softly straight to their man
     
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    fair enough m8
     
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