Have a bob on Simon Davey.............

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  1. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    Going........................
    Istvan Ferenczi
    Sam Togwell
    Paul Reid
    Andy Johnson
    Kim Christensen

    Also Nardiello is going and Ricketts has already gone

    Thats 7 shipped out. I would have liked to have seen more go but even at 7 that makes alot of room for others to come in...........can't wait to hear who's coming to the club (dribble)

    And even if Muller goes and Howard goes the money generated from these sales will allow Simon Davey to bring even more talent to the club
     
  2. Isl

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    They're available that's all. We're still paying them until someone else wants them aren't we?
     
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    what worries me is he's only talking about bringing 4 or 5 in, we need to at the very least bring in the same number as left, as last season we struggled towards the end due to our squad not being big enough to cope with injuries
     
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    Why?

    Given that Christensen and Reid didn't get a look in last season
     
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    still think we need a slightly bigger squad
     
  6. Row

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    Would Not trust Davey To spend the money wisely

    I think the arrogant tosspot needs a more experienced mentor to help with players being brought in. I am still appaled and astounded as to why he has not been given more greif for wasting money on Christienson, and Mosttos Transfer fees and Johnsons wages.
     
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    But..

    he has signed or re-signed all seven of those, including 5 of them last summer.
     
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    Utter tosh

    He's had far more success stories than failures - certainly a better record than some of our other managers in recent years. Every manger has a couple of mistakes, but most of Davey's have been down to trying to work on the cheap - only haveing a few hundred thousand to bring in a couple of Championship quality strikers - almost impossible.</p>

    Of his signings</p>

    Muller</p>

    Steele </p>

    De Silva</p>

    Souza</p>

    Macken</p>

    Campbell Rice</p>

    Van Hommet</p>

    Foster</p>

    Nyatanga</p>

    McIndoe</p>

    Kozluk</p>

    Werling</p>

    have all been pretty good, most for hardly any money. I think he's got a good eye for players on the cheap, much better than Dave Basset!!!</p>

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  9. Gue

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    Did Davey sign mcindoe?

    Didnt realise that
     
  10. Redstar

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    McIndoe?

    I take it you mean Macken?
     
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    get yer money on mottso coming back and doing the business next season. probably settle into area better second time round knowing what to expect..
     
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    Mistake

    oops
     
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    i actually agree maybe it wasnt the best idea to loan him out to another peruvian team but i think he'll be given another chance
     
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    RE: Utter tosh

    seeing as you compare Dave Bassetts signings with Simon Daveys perhaps you would like to compare their PPG records at the same time...
     
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    RE: Utter tosh Difference Is..

    Davet will NEVER acheive play offs or promotion with Barnsley, its not that i dont want the club to do well, the fact is with Davey he will never acheive it with BFC, i hope he proves me wrong but i doubt he will

    How you can compare what Bassett has acheived with what Davey will Never acheive in football management is beyond me..
     
  16. Zuk

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    Didn't say anyhting about achievements of the two manager

    Was comparing their signings.</p>

    If you want to compare their acchievments though you'd have to take into accoun that Bassett inherited a significantly better squad than Davey and had far more cash to throw around. The reason we ended up in administration is 50% his and 50% Spackmans shocking singings</p>

    In terms of who I'd rather give transfer funds to ... Davey every time. Bassett brought some shockers in ... but their wages would have been the killer</p><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="880" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="width: 10px; min-width: 10px; max-width: 10px"></td><td style="width: 604px; min-width: 604px; max-width: 604px" valign="top" align="left">[​IMG] <font face="helvetica" size="-1">Barnsley's transfers in 1999/2000 </font><font face="helvetica" size="-1">

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    With Janni Salli being his final singing. There are some real shockers on there, and he had far more to spend than Davey</p></td></tr></tbody></table>
     
  17. Gue

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    RE: Agree in the main but

    disagree with comments on Bassett. Now if you had said Spaceman I would totally agree. Think Basset was one of the best managers we have had.
     
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    Frankly that would be a ridiculous comparison

    Given that Bassets squad was worth about 10 times that of Daveys</p>

    Hignett - sold for a couple of million</p>

    Sheron - bought for &pound;1.2 mill</p>

    Dyer - bought for &pound;1.2 mill</p>

    Shipperly - bought for &pound;700K</p>

    Hristov - bought for &pound;1.5 mill</p>

    Even the loan players like Curtis, you can guarantee we'd never be able to afford to give Davey enough money to pay the wages of a Man U reserve player on loan for the season these days</p>

    I thought Bassett did a good job, but a large proportion of his signings were woeful ... and that's what we are talking about, the quality of signings made.</p>

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    Good manager

    Some terrible signings</p>
     
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    RE: Good manager

    Now lets move on to a proper manager our Danny.
     

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