Hey l know..let's pass a law banning the wearing of the niqab....

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  1. Tek

    Tekkytyke Well-Known Member

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    ...in the UK. Lets make the punishment say....40 lashes....stoning to death....imprisonment. No?? Of course not 'cos the idea is bloody stupid. Fundamentalism is daft whatever the religion. How paranoid and insecure must these people be? So called intellectuals incapable of reason or rational thought.
    The vast majority of both Christians and Muslims follow the principles of tolerance and peace. Only idiots like JWs and advocates of Sharia law blindly following dogma and ritual. I cannot believe those Western liberals who are stating that 'when in Rome', 'she got what she deserved' etc..... No civilised government , legal system would endorse such laws. They are playing right into the hands of racists like the BNP. So allowing a child to name a stuffed toy after himself who was in turn named after a prophet is justification for inflicting pain and suffering on a human being.

    Organised religion is power and control - nothing more nothing less (and even less to do with God!!)

    Enough to turn you racist - Rant over FOR NOW!


    :((
     
  2. Gue

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    It was the children in her class that named the bear....

    .. They named it, FFS, so why aint they up in front of a Judge, and have the threat of flogging, hanging over them?


    I'd get all the non-Muslim believers to leave that country, ASAP, most of all, those that chose to help Sudan.
     
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    Its the idea that she is heading some western plot to destabilise Islam

    As claimed by the radicals in Sudan that I cant get my mind round.

    Then again maybe it was a double bluff - The ridicule Islam is receiving over this is quite significant.
     
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    Best post for a long time

    except for thelast bit,nothing to do with racism...it's religion... and the fundamental excess. I'm an athiest, why ? because I used to believe in Father Christmas and the boogieman, then I grew up and realised they weren't real. As for god, so many atrocities have been commited in his name if he could be proved not to exist then the the people enforcing 'gods law' would have to take responsibility for their own action. Also I'm so grateful that I live in a country in which I can express these opinions without fear of being oppressed. Finally have you noticed how many religious fanatics regard women as second class citizens? Social control I think so.</p>

    BTW if you have a faith fine this rant is not directed at people who believe it's at the people who twist that faith and use it as a reason to supress and brutalise others within their society who dare to step out of line.</p>

    Not my area normally but I had to let it out.</p>
     
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    whats the difference is between naming a child and a childs toy Mohammed?

    90% of muslim children are called mohamed,wheres the insult? its a childs toy for goodness sake</p>

    can one of our more enlightened members please clue me up</p>

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    for centuries religion has been the tool to control the masses

    as the western peoples have become better educated and the power of the fear of god has waned, governmentsnow use the toolof fear of terrorism to keep us allunder control.
     
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    The explanation apparantly

    Is that Muslims forbid making images of their prophet and some consider naming anthing other than a male person Mohammed an insult.

    However its not black and white.

    This article on the BBC website has a stab at explaining it

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7115821.stm
     
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    Though Lenin had a different approach

    to controlling the masses

    It seems we cant really win
     
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    tolerance and understanding not at the top of their ist then

    certainly plays into the hands of the anti muslim press in this country
     
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    the power of nightmares ? nt
     
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    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

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    Stalin ? nt
     
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    Apparently...

    ... when the Saudi king Fahad died recently he went up to heaven and was concerned that when ushered in front of Big G there was Jesus on his right and Abraham on his left.
    God says to him "My son, you look peturbed; you were a wise and good king on Earth, tell me your wish and it will be granted. We have many great people here - who would you like to meet"
    Fahad looks up meekly and says "Oh great Allah, I would be most grateful if I could meet with the prophet Mohammed P.B.U.H.)"
    "You Sure?"
    "Yes"
    "Ohhhh OK then" he leans across his desk and presses the intercom,
    "Mohammed! 4 teas please"
     
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    just walked past the Indian

    restraunt in wombwell, trimmed up and a santa on the wall
     
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    They know how to have a good time them Indians.

    </p>

    They'll have a party for owt.</p>
     
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    RE: just walked past the Indian

    There's a fair percentage of Christians in India. Egypt has a 64% Christian population.

    A cynic however may point out that there's a business imperitive at work at your local curry house.
     
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    Some great comments from Muslims here.

    <div class="signature_name" id="petition_signature_title">We signed the &quot;Muslims Urge Sudan to Free Gillian Gibbons&quot; petition! </div><div id="signature_container_container" style="min-height: 1px"><div id="signature_container"><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 213: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Karen Allmond , Maryland</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 212: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Leslie Bl , Maine</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 211: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Deysi Robbins , Tennessee</font></span>
    this is a totally innocent incident, she was trying to follow the childrens suggestions. it will definitely be a detriment against of Muslims and Islam. let the teacher go free. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 210: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Luwam Beyene , United Kingdom</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 209: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Dalul Beyene , United Kingdom</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 208: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Razia Khan , United Kingdom</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 207: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Cynthia Wells , Canada</font></span>
    I am signing this petition at the behest of my good friend and upon reading some of the comments here can understand why religion is such a divisive force. Anyone expecting a reasoned, careful response from the authorities ruling Sudan must be living in a time-warp. The fact that they are complicit in the Janjaweed's quest to eliminate the black Sudanese population should be the biggest clue to their philosophies. For those petition signatories who question giving aid to the Sudanese government, question instead why we as world citizens do not do more to stop what is happening over there. Why are we notdoing more to support the UN Peacekeeping Mission? This is just a repeat of the situation in Rawanda, a failed UN peace-keeping mission despite the valiant efforts of Gen. Romeo Dallaire. His hands were tied by the rulings of the UN Security Council and he was forced into a no-win position and succumbed to his state of depression and asked to be relieved of his post. Perhaps it is time to SERIOUSLY review the reform of the UN Security Council and provide the peacekeeping forces with a better set of teeth to deal with the travesties that exist there. Beyond my comments on the Sudanese government, I would also like to comment on those persons here who believe throwing the baby away with the bath water is a fair choice for those suffering under the rule of these tyrannical rulers. It all comes down to respect for others, DESPITE their lack of respect. All human beings are diminished by condemning out-of-hand any other member of a group simply because of their alliances with that group. I could quote endlessly from many sources and will quote from a humanist source known worldwide, Dr. Martin Luther King: &quot;Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will.&quot; AND &quot;Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.&quot; Let us remember these, and more of his (and others like him), wise words. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 206: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Hans Lak , Netherlands</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 205: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Marla De Vries , Netherlands</font></span>
    Please free Gillian Gibbons ! I am sure it was never her intention to insult Muslims ! </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 204: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Anonymous , United Kingdom</font></span>
    This kind of stupidity (the arrest of a woman whom had no idea of insulting anybody )is causing an already embattled Islam no end of negative publicity </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 203: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Anonymous , Virginia</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 202: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Vidya Sims , California</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 201: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Abdur-Rahman Syed , Massachusetts</font></span>
    the sunnah is hikmah. may Allah guide you and us all. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 200: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Anonymous , United Kingdom</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 199: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Jurgen Goesaert , Belgium</font></span>
    No wonder people get a bad image about the Muslim-community. What about Humanity, I don't think any christian person would mind if someone named their teddybear Jesus or Mozes..... </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 198: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Peter Wanschura , Canada</font></span>
    What a disgrace this is! The poor teacher; to give of her life and go to Sudan, make the effort of teaching the children, and this is the thanks she gets for it. The Sudanese government has to be one of the world's most corrupt, degenerate, and bigotted in existance. Having terrorized the southern Christian and Animist part for years was insufficient. It then turned to pillaging, raping, and slaughtering the inhabitants of Darfur. I will sign this petition but seriously doubt that it alone will work. The barbaric, sub-human dictatorship currently occupying the seat of government in Khartoum uses force and terror. I believe the only thing that will make it come to its senses is the use of force and terror right back. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 197: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Rihab Gamaoun , Tunisia</font></span>
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    The govenrnment of Sudan has bowed to arbitrary religious pressure not to Islamic religious truth. The entire civilized world recognizes the facts of this case and cries out that justice be done. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 194: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Kayla Philbrick , Maine</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 193: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Simon Penfound , United Kingdom</font></span>
    This ridiculous action regresses the good work many moderate Muslims and other faith groups invest in to bring people together. This is anti Dawa. As Muslims we should set an example and I can't believe for one minute that the actions taken by the authorities in Sudan would be endorsed by our beloved Prophet (PBUH). As British Muslims we make Dua for Gillian Gibbons and seek ALLAH's mercy and guidance for her and her misguided captors. </div></div>
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    Please grant forgiveness for a mistake made. I believe she had good intentions. Please offer her kindness and forgiveness. </div></div>
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    This a disgrace and the Islamic leaders continue to prove that their goal is dominion over the world, not peace. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 183: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Anonymous , United Kingdom</font></span>
    I pray to God that these people do the right thing and free this woman untouched... </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 182: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Sarah M , Virginia</font></span>
    I'm Sudanese and a conservative Muslim alhamdu li Allah, yet I am ashamed at what the government is doing .. which makes me wonder about their intentions behind their actions. I wonder whether the same action would have been taken had the teacher been from Sudan or Saudi Arabia!! </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 181: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Sherrill Glasser , Australia</font></span>
    A really unfortunate incident that we can all learn from, but one where an apology should be accepted. I'm sure Ms Gibbons is sincerely sorry that her oversight has resulted in a breach of the laws of the land. Please let her go free. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 180: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Lynne Banta , California</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 179: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Anonymous , Massachusetts</font></span>
    Pure religious hypocrisy. A government who sponsors terrorism, murder, rape, and outright genocide is trying to pass itself off as a defender of Islamic principles? </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 178: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Lisa Forrest , Maryland</font></span>
    To the Sudanese Government and all Muslims offended by Ms. Gibbons: The point is made -- non-Muslims need to be more aware of the potential to offend and be more thoughtful of your beliefs. Perhaps it would benefit us all if there were an easily accessible source for information on acceptable standards of conduct. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 177: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Penny McIlraith , Canada</font></span>
    Although Ms. Gibbons showed a lack of judgment in allowing the class bear to be called the same name as the profit Mohammed (think of the reaction in a predominantly Christian country if she had British diplomats and any other country should try to resolve this issue quietly. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 176: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Umar Butt , United Kingdom</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 175: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Mohammed Beyad , Virginia</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 174: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Claire Walsh , United Kingdom</font></span>
    Please treat this woman with kindness. It does Muslim-Western relations no good if this case goes any further. I urge the Sudan government to have compassion. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 173: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Christina Hyde-hulbert , United Kingdom</font></span>
    What century are you guys living in? Maybe we should treat people like this who come to the UK - they'd soon start to behave themselves in OUR country. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 172: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Dolores Voorhees , Minnesota</font></span>
    Insensitivity does not equal criminal behavior. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 171: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Meghan Gowan , New Hampshire</font></span>
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    The Middle ages, I'm telling you! Use your brain and set Gillian free! </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 169: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Louis Bauer , New York</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 168: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Scott Christian , Pakistan</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 167: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Steve Klein , Virginia</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 166: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Abaas Yunus , United Kingdom</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 165: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Patriotic Kiwi , New Zealand</font></span>
    Ms Gibbons committed no crime. As free people, western civilisation need to take a stand against Islamofascism and everything it stands for. Visit http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog today. The government of Sudan must release Ms Gibbons immediately. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 164: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Claire Ali , United Kingdom</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 163: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Anonymous , United Kingdom</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 162: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">ROBERT STREBECK , Texas</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 160: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Anonymous , United Kingdom</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 159: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Anonymous , United Kingdom</font></span>
    It was the children who chose the name for the toy, NOT Ms Gibbons. She is completely innocent and should be released immediately. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 158: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 29, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Eva Eberhardt-Cohen , California</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 157: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 28, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Gina Pettitt , New York</font></span>
    I don't believe this was an intentional slight on Ms Gibbons part but rather a bit or cultural ignorance. The children were too young to know that it was wrong religiously to use Muhammed's name in that way but I am sure it was intended as a compliment and sign of honor to name a treasured item after Muhammed. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 156: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 28, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Tasliema Allison , South Africa</font></span>
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    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 155: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 28, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Lee Ann Fleetwood , Bahrain</font></span>
    Considering that most teddy bears that get named are usually loved and cared for...it would seem more like a compliment then a case of blasphemy. The prophet was chosen by God to be a prophet because of who HE was...not because he was named Mohammed. There seem to be a lot of Muslim men out there with too much time on their hands and not a lot of activity going on in the brain. </div></div>
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    May God send blessings upon his beloved messenger Muhammad and guide us all to a strait path to worship God alone. This whole thing is crazy. Just let the poor women go home. </div></div>
    </div><div class="signatures" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature" style="padding-top: 0px"><div class="signature_number"># 153: </div><div class="signature_body" style="margin-left: 60px"><span class="signature_date" style="padding-left: 0px"><font color="#6ba50a">Nov 28, 2007,</font></span> <span class="signature_name"><font color="#666666">Jim Phillips , California</font></span>
    This is ridiculous! Disgusting! There are many muslims named &quot;muhammad&quot; and some are not exactly good citizens nor good muslims either. Whomever brought the charges against Ms. Gibbons ought to have their head examined! If the muslims want to protect the &quot;good&quot; name of muhammad, then they should not allow the name muhammad ever to be used again. </div></div>
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    agreed mate

    i feel that confirms the social control agenda of the fundamentalists not being in line with the people with true faith
     
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    Oh aye...

    .. and the "anti-anyone that piss's us off" brigade are helping matters?

    You honestly think that sentencing someone, who's class named a teddy bear, after a class-mate, is justifiable?

    You could'nt make it up!
     
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    I think it's not because she allowed it to be called Mohamed but because they all voted to call it that. Democracy isn't a much used term in Sudan...........</p>

    &quot;Sudan has an authoritarian government in which all effective political power is in the hands of President Omar al-Bashir. Bashir and his party have controlled the government since he led the military coup 1989&quot;</p>
     
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    Many Western liberals are a bunch of hypocrites

    They're supposed to be committed to equality, women's rights, gay rights, free speech. right to vote etc etc and yet they consistently support regimes and ideas that are opposed to their own core values. e.g. Feminist journalists who support Iran against the USA - but where would they rather live? I bet it's not Tehran.

    Truth is that for various reasons western liberals take an anti-western (i.e. anti-Christian, anti-Capitalist, anti-USA) stance on so many issues that they're even willing to compromise their own beliefs to do so.

    Criticising this woman for naming a teddy bear "Mohammed" is another example of the same hypocrisy. Imagine the outrage there would be from liberals if Christians in America wanted to imprison someone for using "Jesus" as a swear word.

    As for Islam, it's ridiculous. Simple as.
     

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