How come everyone assumes Davey is to blame if players get the face on

Half the people on this board have decided that Davey has alienated the likes of Christenson and Johnson. Has anyone thought maybe Davey told them they weren't going to be first choice and they spat the dummy out, or complained they weren't playing and stopped trying in training. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. From what I've heard Kim C would rather sulk behind a floodlight sat on a bucket when he is told he is not fit enough than try to up his fitness levels. Players will always be unhappy with a manager when they are not playing. the size of our squad dictates that some players won't be playing. When they aren't playing they should work hard and wait for their chance. If their chance doesn't come then thats the managers decision and they have the right to ask to leave

 

"the size of our squad dictates that some players won't be playing"

we finished the season having to include a 16 year old and a goalkeeper on the bench due to our small squad. in order to have 16 fit players (and leave our christensen and johnson) davey had to call up a 16 year old from the academy...

You are right though, maybe davey isn't the one with the problem. Maybe it is colgan, kay, ricketts, kozluk, reid, johnson and christensen that have problems. That is much more likely than it being one person.

 

Sorry but thats nonsense. Kozluk has said himself that he was out of the team due to injury problems, Paul Reid wasn't good enough and there was no stage in the season where he should have been getting in the side, Kay played most of the time Davey was here and then was let go - he wasn't frozen out - and theres been enough stories criticising Colgan's behaviour after Muller's arrival. Ricketts has had an attitude problem everywhere he's been - so theres no reason why he hasnt done the same here. Johnson and Christensen, who knows?

Its just easier to blame Davey for everything I think.

 

The 16 year old was included, quite rightly to gain experience. Virtually every team in the country do this on the last day of the season when they have nothing to play for and it is an investment in our future.

Colgan felt he should be first choice and wasn't playing.
Kay broke no drinking rules that everyone else managed to adhere to
What problem did Kozluck or Reid have, at the time it was Davey's view that other players were playing better and consequently they had the shirt, whats the problem with that?
Ricketts was a gamble that didn't pay off and he has disappeared probably back in to the personal problems that have blighted his career.
Christensen has fallen out with every manager he has ever played for

 

I’ve heard how he speaks to the players.

Anyone who site behind the dugout must know what I mean..

For the Charlton game instead of sitting with my season ticket place I sat with some friends who got the tickets as big group deal and we where just behind the dugout.

The language he speaks to the players in was shocking. I recall flipping Steele, kick the ball where I flipping tell you to kick it or you coming flipping off. And it continued

Every player just about got it and if that’s how he talks to the players out on the pitch what arrogant attitude does he talk to them behind closed doors.

Also Kay wasn’t the only one to break the drinking rules and Davey knows that. Just that Kay was the joker in the pack and Davey doesn’t like people like that.

I assume that’s why Andy Johnson is out of the picture and Kozluk was for a large period.

 

A manager that shouts at his players

the nasty man. Davey out. lets get Lorainne Kelly as manager.ess.

trival, pathetic and completely irrelevant. well done.

 

'Industrial' language. p &amp; q's not always appropriate in a match.</p>

And if Davey didn't like 'jokers' then Kozluk would never have been signed in the first place. Kozluk gives Daveysome pillockI can assure you.</p>

 

We had to include a goalkeeper on the bench

That's disgraceful!

 

What’s with the flipping, nice filtering.

Its how he says it not that he was just shouting at them.

An unnamed player now long gone did say he was the most arrogant man who had ever coached him and was impossible to get along with.

 

Andy Ritchie criticised for just standing on the touchline motionless and not saying owt, Davey criticised for having a go at players from the sidelines!

 

Ii think you're a tad paranoid there.</p>

Where has any rift been suggested between Kozzy and Davey? Or Reid and Davey? Reid didn't play because Davey decided he wasn't good enough - which is true. Kozluk (by his own admission) suffered with a lot of niggling injuries.</p>

Then Ricketts was bone idle, and looked crap, Kay was decent but loved his ale too much (allegedly). There's been enough stories about the others to suggest the fault could lie with either party</p>

 

In all my years of watching Barnsley

I find it difficult to remember a manager who divided opinion as much as Simon Davey. On one hand you have people who dislike him to the extent that they'd refuse to acknowledge his achievements even if we were to win promotion to the Premier League, alongside pedants (who would win a gold medal for Great Britain if nit picking were an Olympic sport) looking for the slightest issue to hurl in the manager's face. On the other hand, there are sycophants who would claim black is white (or Bobby Hassell is a superior midfield player to either Sam Togwell or Andy Johnson) if that mirrored the opinion of Davey.
In my opinion, Simon Davey is not the great manager some think he is, nor is he the Devil incarnate either. He's still fairly inexperienced (only appointed caretaker manager 18 months ago), so is bound to make some mistakes. Provided he learns from his errors, and I have no reason to think he won't (although I'm aware many will disagree with me), then he'll improve as a manager which, in turn, will improve the lot of Barnsley Football Club.

 

Re: Team spirit

The team spirit has been fantastic this year.The manager giving hugs and high fives after every victory to each player including the subs.I think people are looking for something thats not there.

 

Ah, someone who gets it. Good call Kev.

 

That was almost as sensible a post as your daughter's! nt

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I've got large breasts, too

Normal service is resumed.

 

I wonder how much of people's opinion on Davey is down to the way in which he was appointed and Gordon Shepherd's handling of the media at the time.

 

Bugger off

You cheeky sod!!
You're getting all your insults in before you fly off to America.

 

"Odejayi Syndrome"

I agree, but I think its what Iv'e come to call "Odejayi Syndrome" People criticise for every little thing and so others start to defend him, then we become entrenched, no-one can back down when the truth is somewhere in the middle!!

 

Is it his face that does it? His slightly smug look?

Or the way he talks? Do people think he was involved in Ritchies departure? I don't think he can be pilloried on his achievements thus far when taken as a whole. I want to like him butthere is somethingthat stops me, can't put my finger on the reason though.