how long do points for speeding stay on licence?

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  1. Redstone

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    sorry mate

    they stay on your license for 3 years. You still have to declare them for 5 years as you have received a fixed penalty notice in accordance with 1974 rehabilitation of offenders act
     
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    RE: sorry mate

    so after 3 years do you send you licence off to have them removed? or does it just mean they dont count to your running total so to speak?
     
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    yeah send them off mate

    and are removed - in effect you have a clean licence. Don't make the mistake of not informing your insurers that you had a conviction in the last 5 years though.

    when people ask if you have a clean licence you can say "yes". just send it off to the dvla and your points are wiped
     
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    Redstone Well-Known Member

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    ah right

    on there website i was waffaling on about 3 years then 4 years for this and so forth. confusing as hell. Phoned them up today and its all automated you get nowhere
     
  7. Gue

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    I recently went on a 'speeding awareness' course instead of getting 3 points, and they told us there how it works and there are actually three things to note:

    1) Points count for the totting up system for 3 years.

    2) Points must stay on your licence for 4 years, after which time you can apply to have them removed - costs about £20.

    3) Speeding convictions must be declared to insurers for a period of 5 years.

    hope this helps,
     
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    thank for that

    So after 3 years they do not count to the running total? so it would be possible to have 12 points for example and not be banned. Then after 4 years you have them removed? have i got the gist right?
     
  9. Gue

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    What happens if you don't tell the insurance and they find out anyway?
     
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    What happens is

    You are deemed have deliberately provided your insurers was false information.  As such you are in breach of contract and thus not insured.  NOT worth the risk.
     
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    That is my understanding

    They only count towards the running total for 3 years. After 4 years you may have them removed from your licesce. However, speeding is a conviction and is not considered spent until 5 years from the conviction date. As such, insurers are entirely within their rights to ask about convictions within the last 5 years, and failure to disclose may render your insurance invalid.
     
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    deliberate non-disclosure

    happens all the time, we void the policies and our "former client" is sued for the 3rd party's costs

    people never learn
     
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    correct apart from point 2

    can come off licence after 3
     
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    right thank

    i only have the 3 and there are up for 3 years on 2nd of feb. Was just curious when i need them removing but it is another year. Told insurance straight away not worth the risk is it.
     
  15. Gue

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    I've got 12 points on mine

    but only 6 are active, as the other 6 were "won" over 3 years ago.

    totting up only applies for 3 years but they stay on for another year or two extra just so the insurance companies can **** you over on premiums.
     
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    never lie to insurers

    seriously mate - people do it with us and they end up f###ed

    3 years for licence - trust me. get em removed in feb
     
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    wrong

    1974 rehabilitation of offenders act

    fines disclosable for 4 years
    fixed penalties for 5

    that's why legally you have to declare
     
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    hmmm

    says on dvla website is four years.

    dvla

    just managed to find it today it is confusing to me though(banghead)
     
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    its up to you

    i know from experience and work but totting up only counts for 3 years
     
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    RE: its up to you

    just get conflicted opnions about when they removable so to speak. Its just dvla are hell to contact.
     

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