Hsr2

Anybody else think this is a flawed project.
Surely what the North needs are decent speedy electrified routes.
Sheffield/Barnsley/Huddersfield currently takes 1 hour 20 minutes (33 miles approx)
Sheffield/Manchester - 1 hour (37 miles)

Would it not be more sensible to spend the projected £33 billion on building (a) a new Motorway between South Yorks and Manchester (b) double track the Penistone Huddersfield section of the Sheffield?huddersfield line and electrify same) and either consstruct a new tunnel for a rail link between Penistone and Manchester. All other routes could be quadruple tracked (e.g. E & W routes to Scotland).

I am convinced this would be far cheaper that the proposals backed by the three main political parties.

 

I was wondering if they could lobby to reopen cudworth station as it appears to pass through the old route

 

It's going to do a lot of damage locally. The Dove Valley is going to get a bloody big viaduct.

I would rather see better and faster East-West connections across the Country.

All 2 major political parties and the lap dogs are all in in favour so like it or not it's coming.

 

I was wandering what route it would take from Sheffield to Leeds. Have you a link showing where it goes in relation to Barnsley

 

Can't fathom why people need to travel anyway. Just set up an internet webinar and you can have a conference with visitors from all over the world without paying a fortune to sit on a train carving its way through someone else's back garden.

Sort out the north south divide by making it easier for people to travel to the south and back to spend money. Classic.

 

Is there not an old viaduct already restore the former glory

 

Department of transport website

 

https://www.gov.uk/hs2-phase-two-initial-preferred-route-plan-and-profile-maps#route-map-west-midlands-to-leeds


Then find the section that runs through your garden

We are on Section 16.

 

This is all a ploy by the Tories to take your eye off the present fiasco their in. It will probably never happen, because a New government would probably alter everything, and in government terms 20 years usually means 30 years. What needs to happen is Investment NOW in Yorkshire and around the Country in big projects to get our industry and hence our unemployed back into action

 

So implementing a Labour policy is a Tory ploy ok

 

Does anybody live in that estate half way up Ardsley hill? If so your getting a tunnel underneath your house.

 

Bugger me, it rampages right through the middle of hoyland common.

As stahlrost says, surely computer technology and the lack of fossil fuels will make it obsolete before a sod is ever dug.

 

You would have thought the could use the old alignment along w
The side of wombwell lane

 

It'll never happen

They'll get as far as Birmingham and decide its too expensive and they don't want us Plebby Northeners having easy access to the Home Counties.....that would never do old chap

 

Thanks for that Shenk1 - It goes very close to where I live. It is amazing that there is an existing trackbed that was onec used as the main Midland main line from Leeds to London. It ignores this and runs parrallel to it by a few hundred yards and in the process carves it's way through both the Carlton conservation area and and Winterset reservoir. A needless addition to costs and almost certain to get the green supporters well up in arms.

 

It is a tunnel at that point

Just fails to go under my Mums house but the tunnel ends 200 yards from her:nails:

Mind you shes 80 this year so............whats another 20 years on to her - I bet she can't wait

 

So to build this nice little commuting route for southerners looking for cheaper housing we'll have to put up with resevoirs being removed, bridges built throughout the countryside, houses demolished, tunnels under houses, the chuffing M1 being moved and woods and forests cut down.

Oh and it'll cost us £30b. I can't wait

 

Personally speaking I can't wait for it. 20 years is a long time to wait, and it does seem odd that they're building South to North rather than from both ends at once, but our HS rail infrastructure needs bringing into the 21st Century. I can live with a few trees being chopped, I'm sure the cutting and embankments will be planted with new ones (to fall on the line and cause delays in Autumn), and it goes a small way to making up for the crimes of governments passed who ripped up lines that should never have been ripped up.

I just hope they bury the signal cable pretty deep on that bit that goes through Lundwood.

 

With video conferences and no doubt 3D ones by time it is built, do folk really need to travel in this day and age?