I do have one question re: new manager

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  1. Cam

    Cambridge Red Well-Known Member

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    If we intend to just carry on as we are without a new head coach, which suits me fine, it does beg the question...

    exactly what did LJ used to do? Surely he added something to the equation, and if he did why don't we need that now?
     
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    If the CEO of a company retires, quite often the promotion is from within the organisation. This is how people further down the chain get promoted.
     
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    I get that, but I just wondered what it was about LJ that was considered so special (not a dig I liked the guy).

    As fans we tend to think of managers as the Messiah, the special person that has the secret of success. Otherwise, why do we get so het[?] up about the appointment, and have endless threads about whether they should be sacked etc.

    Personally I don't think they are the Messiah. Other than a handful of top managers (Pep, etc.) I think they are all much of a muchness. I think player confidence has a far bigger impact on performance and results.

    Just find it a bit strange that we had months of arguing about whether LJ should stay or go, which, at the very least, would seem to indicate that folks think it's a very important role, and now everyone just seems happy to carry on as nowt had happened. Just a bit odd, that's all :confused:
     
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    I think you will find this is a short term plan that should work ok as we have a good foundation laid already and confidence is high. Any (good) manager in any role theoretically aspires to doing a good enough job to render himself redundant. This gives the opportunity for new blood, new ideas and the manager himself to move to bigger and better things. Not sure LJ has done that fully but for the coming period it buys us time to evaluate what it is we need next.
     
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    Perhaps, for a short time, all his duties have been delegated amongst the rest of the coaching staff? Once someone is appointed to do the job full time, whether that be Paul Heckingbottom or someone from outside the club, then they'll take up all the responsibilities previously shouldered by Johnson.
     
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    Agreed

    ...........we got compensation money for Lee Johnson so why not use that to bring someone else in that could help?

    If Hecky is a good un, and all on here and at the club seem to think he is - then keep him and add another

    Tuther one in my opinion should be Neil Redfearn.........keep Hecky get Neil............Win Win
     
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    Agree but surely a manager can have a major influence on said player confidence.
     
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    Redfearn is a legend but he would not be the right appointment at this time.

    Good foundations seem to be in place at the club, the team is oozing confidence and the players have every faith in Hecky and Tommy, as Hourihane's interview made clear.
    Therefore why change anything for now? The key has to be consistency and our best chance of JPT success and/or reaching play offs lies in preserving this consistency.
    Once the dust settles on this season, that is the time to appoint the next man to take us forward, with the added knowledge of knowing how good this current team really is.
    We then deal with player sales, make additions to the squad and strengthen for the forthcoming season, with the new manager/head coach fully on board with what the club are trying to achieve. - wether that be Hecky or anybody else.

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    What does any manager do? It's the players who make up the team, their attitude and form. Hecky and Tommy can observe, offer a view on how things can be improved and point things out to the players, but its up to the players to take it on board and work for it.

    There was an interesting article in the Evening Standard about Claudio Ranieri's contribution at Leicester this evening. He told the players at the beginning of the season what he was going to do and how he was going to change things. The Leicester players listened to him and then politely said they would refuse to tow the line, because their best form last year was when Nigel Pearson allowed them to play with freedom and that is how they wanted to continue to play. I think that is what we are seeing more at Barnsley these days.
     
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    It gets me all these player interviews saying all the squad are behind so and so, no player is gonna come out and say so and so is crap and shouldn't be touched with a barge pole.
     
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    He built the team. The team is now built and doesn't need any tinkering. Just carry on as we are.

    The test will come when Long goes back and decisions have to be made. Right now the team picks itself so it's the easiest managerial job in the division.
     
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    Yeah, agree with you on that one mate, but it is also shown on the pitch, and in Sunday's game the players, for me, clearly showed they were playing for Hecky.

    And to be fair,they looked like they played for LJ, with the odd exception .

    It's been mentioned numerous times on here, but the players have to take massive praise for the hard graft they have put in for BFC , and they are the overwhelming reason why we have turned this season right round.

    It also seems that they have every intention of carrying on with the same attitude.
     
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    Very true. Barnsley and Leicester are bad examples to use right now. It's when things aren't going so well, injuries, players leaving, hic up results. This is when we see how good they are. Clement was sacked at Derby in good position and with a great squad. His decision making wasn't that good when the road got a little bumpy. Redfearn is talking to Kilmarnock if stories out of Scotland are true. I think it would be a mistake to come here.
     

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