In addition to vas te, drinkwater and butterfield. That's the whole 5 man midfield gone. How many goals did that 5 score between them? The replacements haven't been fit enough or good enough and certainly haven't gelled, but it's a fairly tough ask to put together an entire (goal scoring) midfield from scratch, mid season with diddly in the transfer pot. I've got a bit of sympathy for keef, but he's certainly not the legend in his own lifetime that he had many believing earlier in the season. Time for him to show us his "remarkable powers of recovery" me thinks.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi Perkins didn't score any. Can't recall him having shot on target. Nor can he tackle, beat a man, play a quality through ball or bomb down the wing and put a quality cross in. He does run around a lot though and I think that's all some Barnsley fans want in a player.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi Plus, defensively, Hassell is a big loss too. And now Steele. So that's Steele, Hassell, Perkins, Vaz Te, Drinkwater, O'Brien and Butterfield. All players who'd walk into the first 11, and all, for one reason or another, unavailable.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi But Perkins does a lot of the unnoticed hard work which releases other players to be influential. If you can't see what Perkins brings to a five man midfield then I'm not sure its worth arguing
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi Im not understimating at all OBrien in for and Nouble and Perkins in for Doyle (or Dawson) and we would look quite a bit better and may well have come away with something yesterday
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi Perkins is the most influential member of our team. Absolutely missed at the moment, I couldn't care less how many he scores, I can remember shots from him by the way. If you doubt how important he is to the team I honestly don't understand what you've been watching all season. I understand critisicsm of some players, but Perkins has been magnificent for us.
I never did Both of them have been the epitome of the hard working midfielder that every team needs. Anyone k now when either of these will be fit again?
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi In what way has he been magnificent? He is a very limited player IMO with little real talent. What he does do that I am missing? Do you think he is strong in the tackle or creative because I don't. As far as the shots on targets are concerned it was someone else who implied he had scored goals and I don't think it's too much to ask for a central midfielder to weigh in with a couple.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi Do you think he can do any of these things I mentioned? Why don't you enlighten me as to what this "unnoticed work" is?
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi We are certainly missing Perkins, He's the midfield nuisance, players are strolling through our midfield at present but when Perkins is in the team he snaps at ankles like a rabid jack russell.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi It depends what you class as talent. You're right he isn't going to get many goals, he probably isnt going to create any, but seriously, is that all that makes a great player?? The energy he gives in every game is vital to our style of play, especially when we haven't got the ball. For the other players to see the effort he puts in, it is a massive lift for them. He doesn't give opposition players a second on the ball, he gets in their way, fills gaps, chases back, and leads the team when we're closing down in midfield. That can be the difference between winning and losing. The point doesn't even need arguing, he's a massively important player for us.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi If you can't see it for yourself there's no point me trying to convince you as I'm not going to change your mind. I'm pretty confident the majority can though, which is supported by our results with and without him in the team
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi We were still playing badly before he got injured. The turning point was (as we all know) Butterfield's injury and Vaz Te's departure. Out of interest, did you go to Watford this season?
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi Billy Ronson without the skill IMHO.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi You've missed Drinkwater off that list who was arguably an even bigger loss. Our form in Perkins last 6 games was won 3, lost 3. His last game was the last time we won. When he has played in a 5 man midfield he has been a very good player. He struggles more when he is one of the two in a 4 man midfield. No I didn't go to Watford. I've seen him play well this season, and seen him some poor games but we have certainly missed him since he has been injured.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi Hassell and O`Brien when fit have been on bench and not walked into our side and Hill had Vaz Te on the bench as well earlier in the campaign.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi Aye, and I remember the uproar on here when Hassell wasn't playing. Or when Vaz Te was only being brought on for a few minutes at a time. Even the bloke behind me on Saturday was mouthing about how O'Brien can't get a game currently. I'd have all three of those mentioned in the first team now.
Re: I don't think you should underestimate what Perkins & obrien brought to the midfi You would Keef would probs play Wiseman and not Hassell.