I see the Daily Mail is writing Tory policies again

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  1. Farnham_Red

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    Not sure why but I just dont like policies like this

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076

    Policies that are announced purely to get good headlines in the populist press

    Dont get me wrong - I think its important that steps are taken to safeguard children from the evils of the internet but this is just the wrong way to do it

    Giving the impression of solving a problem whilst not considering the unintended consequences is bad government.

    I cant wait to see how this will really work in practice

    This is a really complicated problem which cant be solved by simple sweeping broadbrush regulation and there is a real danger that it will do more harm than good


    Clever kids will soon find ways round it more for the challenge whilst mum and dad think they are safe and I bet parents soon find that filters are not perfect and mainstream sites are suddenly blocked by mistake. there will doubtless be quite a few variations on the well known Scun-thorpe problem

    I assume we are also blocking all households for accessing violent films violent online games by default as well as in my opinion having children practice killing people in all sorts of fantasy ways is actually more damaging than watching a bit of soft porn.
     
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    Concentrate on finding ways to feed 10,000 kids who are admitted to hospital with malnutrition every year
     
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    It's better than the original headline I saw this morning that stated you'd have to opt-in to view child porn! Given that's illegal anyway I could just see it, someone phones up wanting to opt-in and they say "certainly, we'll send someone round straight away to sort it out" and the next minute the police are at the door.
     
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    All we need to do is change the common search terms, so:

    Kiddie porn could be known as "Dave Cameron"
    Simulated rape could be "Nick Clegg"
    etc

    This is like banning the mention of drugs on TV to stop people developing crippling addictions to crack cocaine.
     
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    Like that one!
    I am not actually that knowledgeable on the subject of finding child porn online but I would take a wild stab that its not hosted on sites with a name like www.kiddyporn.com but is hidden in sites with innocent sounding URL's as you point out its illegal anyway - people like Google claim - and I believe them, that if they find a site which has illegal content they inform the police and remove it from their search engines.

    My reading of the tory policy is that you will need to opt in to see legal porn sites - but I am really curious as to how that will work and who defines what is the difference between porn, legitimate medical , art etc - will the sun online be blocked as it has page 3, what about film sites that have 18 certificate films I cant see how its possible to draw a sensible line that fits all cases - either it will be too strict and loads of legit sites will be blocked or there will be more loopholes than in Osbournes economic policy and it will be useless.
     
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    Can see it being a farce for quite a while tbh , if it's anything like the ones they have tried before everytime you search for anything in Sussex, Middlesex etc it will stick up warnings or block it and just think of any body with drain problems who wants to research manholes!
     
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    The ghostly hand of Mary Whitehouse wrote this bilge and left it on the cabinet room table with some wee blobs of ectoplasm.
     
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    You learn summat new every day. I'd never heard of 'rape porn' before. To be honest, I was quite a bit happier when I didn't know it existed.
     
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