If - and I say IF we win tonight and go second

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  1. Red

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    Please PLEASE let's not get carried away, raise our expectations, expect the unrealistic and then get all upset if and when we fall back.</p>

    We made a brief appearance at number 2 in the 99/00 season, only to go back behind Man C and Ipswich when they cashed in their games in hand.</p>

    And while I appreciate you have to have the points, rather than games in hand, let's remember that Brentford will have 3 and Colchester 2.</p>

    I reckon it will be a head above the water appearance and then perhaps a fall back. If we can maintain the momentum though, we could get back there.</p>

    Projected finishings on recent form would suggest we can finish second behind Southend, but we need to keep up the pace.</p>

    Whatever happens, we are within striking distance now - and we are closer than we have been since sinking into this division 4 years ago.</p>

    Keep backing the lads - they need us.  Good luck tonight. Yoo Reds!!!!</p>
     
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    Brentford won't have 3 in hand of us as they are also playing tonight
     
  3. Did a projection in Excel this morning - my top six finishing positions are....

    (Too much time on my hands obviously)

    1 Barnsley 86
    2 Southend 85
    3 Brentford 82
    4 Colchester 81
    5 Huddersfield 80
    6 Swansea 78
     
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    Redstone Well-Known Member

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    i like that!
     
  5. Achievable, VERY achievable! n/t
     
  6. Red

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    Two is still enough.
     
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    my attempt at table shows...

    Team-------------P---GD--Pts
    Colchester ------46--16--93
    Brentford -------46--17--88
    Southend --------46--21--84
    Huddersfield ----46--13--83
    Barnsley --------46--17--80
    Swansea ---------46--22--78
    Oldham ----------46--00--68
    Chesterfield ----46--07--63
    Doncaster -------46--01--54


    Put me on a downer that...

    But, nothing is predictable, we can still do 2nd. COOOOOOME OOOOOOONN YOOOOOOOOOU REEEEEEEEDS!!!!
     
  9. pau

    paul.d Well-Known Member

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    I've just seen a pig flying past

    and it's flying in the face of the stats!!!</p>

    in the 267 12 game sequences(not across season breaks) since the premiership</p>

    we have achieved a maximum of 27 pts only 3 times -a probability of 0.011</p>

    the middle value is 16 pts</p>

    the most frequent IS 12 </p>

    the mean (average) value is 12.7</p>
     
  10. Gue

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    i did a projection this morning

    and the super red tykes win all the rest of the games and finish top

    P GD PTS
    1 Southend 35 21 64
    2 Huddersfield 35 13 60
    3 Colchester 33 16 59
    4 Swansea 35 22 58
    5 Barnsley 34 17 58
    6 Brentford 32 17 57

    we finish with 94 points

    1 super red tykes 46 94
    2 Southend 46 64
    3 Huddersfield 46 60
    4 Colchester 46 59
    5 Swansea 46 58
    6 Brentford 46 57
     
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    yes but....

    we have been relegated twice in those stats. which to be honest will **** up anyone who is trying to justify anything with stats. so it will be obvious that this would happen.

    Apart from bassett, we have been **** point wise in every season.

    try doing the same analysis, just using bassett and this season. Which would be a more fair analysis, as they are the only 2 seasons which could really be in comparrison.
     
  12. Gue

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    i'm not too sure about these statistics you keep coming up with

    i worked out that there is a 1 in 4 chance that the super red tykes will get promoted.

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  13. Gue

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    I you apply last 8 form to the table.........

    ......we finish 3rd on goal difference.

    A win tonight would put us top of the form table and change the projected final position to 2nd.
     
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    and if you apply last 7

    We would finish second on 85, behind Southend's 86.</p>

    And, as you say, a win tonight would strengthen that even further.</p>

    However, if the wheels fell off and we lost everything from now until the end of the season, we'd finish on 58, which is unplaced.</p>

    Stats eh - who'd have 'em.</p>
     
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    but unfortunately.....

    statistics are like that-if you only include the ones you like then almost anything is &quot;provable&quot;-all my figures show is that on AVERAGE we -and I guess most teams in this League-hardly ever perform to that leveL
     
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    Its a fact... that 70% of stats

    are made up....</p>

    [​IMG]</p>



    beleive it or not, that was given in a presentation I was listening to by a respectable and well clued up person. (mmmm)</p>
     
  17. Gue

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    oops

    Forgot to only multiply by 11.

    We'd still be behind Colchester the way I worked it.

    Still ne' mind eh?. We're going to finish 2nd anyway.
     
  18. nezbfc

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    Unless...

    you were involved in the Wimbledon era</p>

    ie straight from conference to top league.</p>

    and you have probably answered my post below (ie made up stats) by saying if you apply what you want.</p>

    But I am just trying to say that they should be in context...</p>

    Not saying you are wrong with your average, that is fair enough.  But its also unfair to say its highly unlikely to hit a 27 point run, when included in those stats are the relegation seasons.  because its more likely now this year, than it was say, the season we cam down.</p>



    Arguement aside, I do appreciate your Stats when you post as they often make interesting read and back up some arguements and provide a different angle to whats &quot;going on&quot;.  But IMHO, I think this one is just a tad unfair, sorry to disagree on this on though mate.</p>
     
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    not wishing to burst the bubble-BLOWN A FUSE-must recalculate!!
     
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    no need to apologise-it's only information NT
     

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