If LJ decides to leave now......

..................then henceforth do not ask Joe Average Fan to show any tolerance towards any BFC manager in future if the team is under performing.

Errrr..... I am Joe Average!

I have never called for a coach/manager to be sacked.

But if the (Joe) Average masses are expected to suffer, without howling for blood, a coach taking us on a record consecutive game loss spiral down to rock bottom in the third tier.............

…..... and then benignly accept the departure of said coach, when he wins a few games at the right time, because it enhances his career, and it fits in with the needs of a club he has past connections with...............is that what the Joe Average masses should also readily suffer?

Fair enough – many supporters thought he'd shown incompetence, and demanded his head. Many weren't prepared to see the season out and give him any excuses. Many might have made him put little price on his own loyalty when they themselves were showing him no mercy.

But a lot – those in power, but also those in the stands who could have been far more vocal – stood by him when his stock was practically worthless.

And to pay that back by departing now would in my opinion be proof of either a risible character or proof that football lacks any loyalty whatsoever. Or both. And confirmation of how Joe Average should expect to be treated by the footballing circus, and thus how he might as well behave once he's bought his ticket: Without any mercy or tolerance.

So for the first time I might well join in with less than flattering chants about him, should he ever come across us again.

But only.............if LJ decides to leave now......

 

I'd feel for Cryne if he did leave, the Facebook status about it being morally wrong to sack someone at Christmas who has a young family and the abuse he took during that terrible run but he still stuck with him and it looks to be paying off for the moment.

 

Agree with G O the person to hurt the most would be PC, he's backed him to the hilt and could have cut his reputation before it has started by sacking him on that bad run but he didn't.

 

But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

social media is one of the worst things to have ever evolved IMHO.

 

Re: But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

90% of people wanted him out, that's not a fan base showing tolerance.

 

One thing LJ has said and said it agin on "Goal rush" saturday night

he wanted 3 transfer windows to get it right... here we are after two , and things are looking much better... everyone thought Winall would be gone , but he has not that was perhaps due to LJ and the board . If we finish this season in the top half and can keep a nucleus of this present squad, then with a few good/shrewd signings in the summer window.. who knows.

 

Re: But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

You're assuming that the 90% who wanted him out on here are representative of the general fanbase. Which they may, or may not be.

 

Re: But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

90% according to what or who?

 

This. LJ owes nowt to the club or to the fans, but he definitely owes something to PC. Few would have blamed Cryne for sacking a manager after 8 dire defeats, and 90% of chairmen would have swung the axe. If that had happened LJ would be looking at the lower end of L1/top of L2 for his next job rather than the championship.

He should repay that faith in my opinion. I think the concept of loyalty is overegged in football - players and managers are just employees at the end of the day, and shouldn't be expected to have the same tribalistic feelings as supporters. But that's not the case here - I'm not suggesting LJ owes a debt to the concept of Barnsley FC, or the town or the fans. He owes it to Patrick Cryne, the bloke who backed him when most others wouldn't have.

 

The concept of loyalty very rarely exists in football.

Which is why we revere such as Bobby Hassell.

Cryne may have had many reasons for not sacking him. It may not involve faith at all.

Meanwhile in the stands the lifeblood of the club - who apparently are owed nowt from the manager - kept largely quiet as our club sank like a stone.

We waited. For summat.

He should now repay that suffering, in my opinion.

 

I really like Lee. When most were calling for his head, like a wally I defended him. Even after our sixth successive defeat. But then came the Altrincham game and I felt he should go. He didn't, and so I didn't bang on and on about it. And because I like him, I hoped he'd turn it around. And as of now, he has done and we're pretty much back to where we were when he joined us, give or take a point or two.

I don't want him to go, but I won't lose sleep over the possibility. The whole point of the 'head coach' role is that it's someone working within a club ethos, a framework. And so it should help the transition.

I'm 34 this year and seen some right talent leave the club. I coped. The club coped. It is what it is.

 

Re: But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

A poll on here I believe, during our disastrous run of form in the autumn.

 

Re: But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

oh ok then.

As long as it was only a vote on here.

 

Re: But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

Think it was more 65/35 in favour of him going.

 

It will be a blessing from God to Barnsley fc

 

Of course loyalty exists in football. But only amongst the most derided - the supporters who stump up their hard earned cash, year on year, only to be told they don't really know anything and their opinion doesn't count.

 

Re: But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

8,420 posts.

 

Re: But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

You do realise 'this' is social media, right?

 

Re: But its just the kiddies on here who have mostly called for his head

Isn't our manager on a three year contract?