If only Odejayi played more like Drogba!!!

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  1. Joh

    Johnny the tyke Well-Known Member

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    SD should make him watch vids of Drogba...... He is similar size and stature and may learn a few things!!!

    the guys needs to take a good look at himself and decide if he wants to be a footballer?
    I don't doubt he has bags of potential, but he just doesn't seem to be showing us anything at the moment..... we keep seeing flashes of what he can do! but so far it hasn't been often enough....

    As for Mostto, he undoubtedly has talent.... but is struggling to settle ala Pablo Angel when he came to Villa. It seems unless we play his way quick passing moves, and play ball through the guy is not gonna perform!

    Far to often at the moment (last few games) we have adopted to playing long high balls to Odejayi... Odejayi hasn't won his ariel battles, thus has not held the ball up. This has created many problems, as follows:

    a. we lose possession and put pressure on ourselves
    b. by playing the ball over the top, we bypass the midfield (howards creativity is effectively taken out of the game)
    c. without possession with lose comfidence, and don't create chances
    d. without chances we don't score goals.

    Obvious answer play the ball on the deck!!!! or make sure the big lad up front can with the ball and is up for the challenge!!! Also by playing the ball on the floor we have more chance of bringing Mossto into the game...
     
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    Johnny the tyke Well-Known Member

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    in addition - If only Odejayi played more Ashley Ward!!!

    We played a similar style when we had Ward, difference was Ward held the ball up kept posession and brought the midfield into play......

    Take note Kayode!! Learn from the master
     
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    With Odejayi's size...

    you'd expect him to hold the ball up, and THEN feed it to Howard. It's like ping pong at the moment, it comes straight back whenever he's near it.
     
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    "I don't doubt he has bags of potential"

    why?

    The blokes 25 going on 26 he's been at Cheltenham for the last few years, non league before that. I can't see this potential because he will never deliver on a consistent basis for us at this level
     
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    and thats why he should be dropped. It's all true and well having a go at Mostto, and rightly so as he aint pulling up any trees, but he should be feeding off Odejayi's flick on's and knock on's. But if Odejayi aint doing it and the ball is jst going straight back from where it came, then sorry but Mostto has no chance
     
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    Good idea.

    In fact Davey could allocate a world class player to everyone in the squad, give them a video of thier allocated player and send them off to practise until they are exactly like them. In a couple of months we'd have the best team in the world. It's easy this coaching isn't it? (doh)
     
  7. Gue

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    Odejayi isn't a target man, he can't play with his back to goal. He needs a target man to play alongside him. He is being asked to do something which is alien to him. It's like asking Devaney to play CH.
     
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    what is he then? Doe sthat mean he can't be expected to win ANY headers?
     
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    No it doesn't mean that at all. What it does mean is that he is more of an alternative to Mossto than an alternative to Ferenczi, hence the reason that they were played together initially. He is more of a danger with the ball in front of him, just like Mossto is, they both need the same kind of service.
     
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    "I don't doubt he has bags of potential, but he just doesn't seem to be showing us anything at the moment..... we keep seeing flashes of what he can do! but so far it hasn't been often enough...."

    That's how reasonable that post is. He just doesn't seem to be showing us anything at the moment ...we keep seeing flashes of what he can do. FFS.
     
  11. Gue

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    Some good points well made Johnny TT . Reading your post made me think why are we lobbing balls forward , when we have very few players who can pass accurately beyond 5 yards. We have beaten teams and fought back to draw this season when we play flowing football feet to feet . Lobbing forward is when we are clueless, lack confidence and have a team closing us down well eg Burnley . At Hull it was as though the team did not turn up and yesterday maybe 5 of them did.
    In the last 3 games we have lost the battle in midfield , accepting that we clawed back to draw against Burnley . We are not balanced, do not play as a unit, back off , play too deep and put too much pressure on our defence .

    At Leicester Howard and Togwell appeared to be playing in the same position , effectively leaving a gaping hole . Against Hull and Burnley Howard and Mc Cann likewise . Does anyone else see this ? Does Davey see it ?

    Also our left back position has been dodgy for all 3 games. Yesterday Kozluk , in fairness was no worse than anyone else on the pitch , but the left side doesnt seem to work with JCR in front of the left back.

    I would like to see Werling playing in JCR's place .He likes to get forward , is one of the few who can cross a ball in powerfully and accurately and he would be on the pitch for his free kicks .Last 3 games we have been taken apart down this side , so why do we not change it .

    If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got comes to mind after our last 3 very frustrating performances.

    Re our strike force you summed them up brilliantly . We need an experienced striker who can hold the ball up , instinctively get goals and maybe from the likes of Odejayi to learn from . Yesterday we didn't get get the ball through to any striker very much , however when we did ,he didn't have the skill , experience of the confidence to know what to do with it . We didn't lose yesterday just because of this and no blame is attached.

    Whilst watching my team play , this pains me and I do feel angry with some of them who do not give their all . I am not dispondent and am too positive to be a doom and gloom merchant.
    I predicted at the start of the season that we would finish 13th and I still believe that .

    Davey needs to learn a bit about tactics though and how to change things when our game plan is not working . He acts like a coach rather than an incisive manager . I hope he can continue to develop and learn the difference .

    2 nil down at half time ! Why wait to make a change ? .When he did he changed a striker when we were not getting the ball forward . We needed shoring uP in midfield to release Howard to go forward more . Why not change both at same time .

    Leicester were a relatively poor managerless team there for the taking and we made them look good .

    At the least the day was saved by being able to have a lie in ,good company , one of the shortest funniest journeys back to London for some ! not others followed by chilling out in a wonderful Spanish Bar afterwards.

    Bring on Preston and here's hoping those in a position to change things , learn from the last 3 games .then we can really celebrate our win as we hit Barnsey night life next satuday
    night .

    Freya
     
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    you cant have the ball in front of you all the time or wed be doing it. Out of the two strikers currently playing hes the physically better suited for the high ball and tough side of the game so he should be doing the target mans job when needed. You cant say hes not a target man and excuse him being a wimp.
     
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    "Davey needs to learn a bit about tactics though and how to change things when our game plan is not working . He acts like a coach rather than an incisive manager . I hope he can continue to develop and learn the difference . "

    This is exactly why Davey got the job, because he was supposed to be a tactical genius, he is no better than what he replaced in this .
     

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