The Nottinghamshire miners were never the same as other miners. In 1926 they were the people who led the return to work. They were the people who formed the scab Spencer union, which then went around spreading itself through other industries. In the new era of nationalised coal production, the Nottingham men were let back into the NUM, even giving Spencer a seat on the national executive. But they always remained a sleeping force, with their own caucus meetings. As late as 1983, Notts miners were still being paid the increment for scabbing in the 1926 strike.
Having been to Nottingham for the Forest game, and then to Derby on Saturday I am personally sick of all he scab taunts from our fans. The people who are doing most of the shouting are young people who probably can't even remember the strike, and they have no idea of the gravity of the insult they are shouting.To call somebody a scab is a serious and terrible insult. It indicates somebody who sold out his colleagues and broke ranks in the face of forces aimed at destroying that unity. You don't just shouted it at anybody! Most of the people in that crowd never worked down the pit, were never involved in the strike, and are bemused to listen to our idiot rambling.Since the strike we have had a season in the premiership, we have been to Wembley twice, and we have won at the millennium Stadium. We have a club to be proud of and this kind of chanting portrays us as a club and a town firmly entrenched in the past and incapable of moving on.You are not doing as justice, for God's sake let it go.
What does the strike have to do with a football match between Barnsley and Nottingham Forest? (I did think DJ Fatty Boy's effort yesterday was great, though.)
I know Nottingham well and I'm neither young or ailing in memory about the strike(s). For me it's just a sweepstake on when the first scab chant starts after the beginning of the match. I'm guessing ten seconds and I'll be shouting as loud as anyone else. I'm not bitter or twisted either. Just that some things shouldn't be forgotten. Are you really saying that folk in Nottingham don't understand why we shout scab? I doubt it but if true that's even more reason to keep doing it.
I remember..... it I lived through it........ I suffered 12 months without a pot to pi@@ in I have mates who lost their jobs.. their wives left them, because of having no money.... having the electricity turned off etc etc while them scabbing Bas@@ds. sold us down the river.... I f you are to young to remember or didnt suffer....dont tell us who did to forgive and forget...cos it isnt going to happen....!!!! I am a political animal watch out I bite... Free Images
The let it go merchants go and **** yourselves, no way ever will i let it go just because some PC shits tell me it's time to move on. And what the **** does age have to do with it? many kids are told of what happened by their dads and grandads, stories of how the spinless scab nottingham Barstewards sold us out to Thatcher. Scabs back then, scabs now and always scabs.
At Forest I heard a bunch of idiots (and there were a lot) chanting "I'd rather be a Paki than a scab". Does that make you proud to be a Barnsley fan? It made me cringe. Let it go!
History Shmistory. Those brave Nottingham lads - battling their way into work against all the odds. Having to sit in the canteen sipping tea because their colleagues wouldn't help them out & get the pits running. Standing side by side with Sir Maggie Thatcher to rid the land of the evil, disruptive strikers. Almost brings a tear to the eye. THESE are the real heros. Not these young lads out on holiday in Afghanistan. That should do it.
I wouldnt dream of telling anyone to forget But the vast majority of the Nottingham fans will never have been near a pit Any true "scabs" ie those who worked through the strike fair enough but anyone under 40 cant possibly be one and a lot of the over 40's wont have been in the mining industry so for probably around 10% of scabs in the ground we plan to hurl abuse at the innocent 90% - not sure I am comfortable with that myself And in case you are wondering I do remember the strike very well but wasnt personally directly affected as I worked in a completely unrelated industry darn sarf at the time - I just had to live with friends and family suffering which I wont pretend is as bad as suffering directly.
"I wouldnt dream of telling anyone to forget" My Grandad has alzheimers. I walked in his house last week, he looked at me blankly & said "I've no idea who you are". I sad "It's okay - forget about it". Me & my Nan were pissing ourselves. By pure coincidence - he says all this financial mess the country is in is down to the fact that they've started shutting the pits. I'll sing that to the Forest fans. Brilliant.
What people who want to forget, forget is that... the strike was more than a battle for jobs and communities and more about which road Britain would follow for the next thirty years or so. The miners and therefore the unions lost and ultimatley, so did the worker.
Got some time on my hands. And I don't think it's possible to masturbate much more in one day. There's barely any skin left on it.
Anyone chanting that should be banned. Lots of things the "fans" do make me embarassed. You seem to be embarassed by your roots. Can't help that