If you were the Don

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  1. Hom

    Homer Well-Known Member

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    This is not attacking the club but common sense.
    If you were Don Rowing, would you not have had a contract lined up weeks ago, irrespective of league we were in. If you listen to his interview, he has no idea what the contract is. He is waffling. Who is dealing with it then because Rowing isn't. He does not know wether it is a rolling contract or for x amount of years. He assumes David will sign, but I bet he must have little doubts.
    For all those who say Chill out, don't count your chickens before they have hatched. To the Don, you may fool some people some of the time, but you do not fool all of the people all of the time. You should have had this all sorted weeks ago, and it should have been wrapped up. Also you have not made any statement as to where we go from here, both financially and football wise. You were a lot quicker giving us the down side of losses if we went down. so what are the upsides now we have stayed up. Please communicate with the fans, there are some of us who are definitely sceptical.
     
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    I'm sure I read something a few days before the Huddersfield match, stating that a contract had been drawn up and would be offered to Flitcroft irrespective of what Division we found ourselves in after the weekend.
     
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    David Flitcroft would not have been involved in drawing up the retained list, if he was not staying. Could you imagine a new manager working with someone elses retained list, and if change was intended, the club did not have to release a list now. Most out of contract players end contracts at the end of June.
     
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    redarmy990 New Member

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    and flickers caretaker contract doesnt run out till May 31st, he then goes back to his assistant manager contract.
     
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    There were two contracts, each tailored to whatever league we would end up in. It's clear now that the championship document has been presented to David who will no doubt have some further points to discuss. This is the nature of negotiation. I wouldn't be surprised if the personal terms extend to those offered to Terry Butcher and beyond. Don't worry about it, let them get on with it.
     
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    I think you've got completely the wrong end of the stick. It's not that Don doesn't know whether it's going to be a rolling contract or a fixed term contract, it's that he doesn't yet know what Flicker would prefer. The board, that's Don, Barry and Patrick, had already decided before the Huddersfield game that they were going to offer Flicker a contract. They'd already decided how much they were going to offer him. At some time after the Huddersfield game they put this offer to David Flitcroft. We're now in the stage of contract negotiations. Flicker will decide if he's happy with what we've offered or if he wants more or if he wants certain conditions putting in the contract and the two parties will decide exactly what type of contract should be signed.

    What did people expect? The Don to march in to the changing rooms at full time after the Huddersfield game with the contract in his hand and Flicker to sign it there and then without even reading it?

    At the very least Flicker will want his lawyers to look over what is offered. He'll want to discuss it with his family. He may want those lawyers to draw up some demands of his own. It takes time.

    Don may not be the most progressive general manager in charge of a football club today, but he's not ******* stupid. He's not a bumbling nincompoop, he's a very competent man in charge of the finances of a business with a multi-million pound turnover. He may not be everything you want him to be, you may not like him, but he's certainly not the idiot many people are making him out to be. He's an intelligent man that is doing a better job with this football club than 99% of the people on this board would be capable of, and I include myself in that.
     
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    Spot on that.

    He's also doing the job his gaffer wants him to do.
     
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    As previously stated....

    ... Flicker said he did not want to discuss a contract until after the season finished.

    He wanted to concentrate solely on the job of keeping us up.
     
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    Well do not include me in that statement. I run my own business and was able to retire at 56 . Can you substantiate your opinions on what is happening because it has not appeared on any news. Flicker will have recommended the players to stop. He states quite categorically that their is a lot of negotiating to be done. He wants to know what Barnsley are planning for the football club. He also states he does not want to be scratching about like he has had to do this year. Now does that sound like someone who is going to sign. He wants to sign but he wants some commitment from Barnsley. Also if Don Rowing has drawn the contract up, surely he Knows whether it is a rolling one or fixed
    I beg to differ on your opinion of him and I do not hate him, I think he is hardened in the art of football ********.
     
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    If you believe you could do a better job, which you are clearly intimating, take your CV to Patrick Cryne and tell him why you are the right man to run Barnsley Football Club.
     
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    running your own business and running a football club are at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum.

    Barnsley football club employ over 100 people at any given time,most of which have there own guy/gal telling the football club my client wants this or my client wants that.

    I personally would never want the job of Don Rowing in my opinion hes doing a great job,yes theres a few probs as in any business.

    Anyone who can get a champioship football club running virtually debt free knows what hes doing.

    Just ask any Blackburn fan the Venkys are the proof of people not having a clue how to go about organisation and planning of a football club
     
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    Homer Well-Known Member

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    How do you make that out. Running businesses all follow the same format. Make profit or you go under.
    Sometimes one has to speculate to accumulate , not over the top, but if you do not you can get left behind and go under. You can run debt free easy by not spending anything. Not always the best option done prudently. Agree about Venkys they are a catastrophe
     
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    Homer Well-Known Member

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    My CV has gone in
     
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    if you have worked behind the scenes of a footie club you would know what i mean.

    we once speculated to accumalate and were nearly without a club.

    i would prefer where we are now to going bust, but thats just my opinion
     
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    Dragon Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Now if I had said that....

    I would have been pilloried. Well said sir and I totally agree with you.
     

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