Illusions - 'In off the cross bar'

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  1. Dis

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    Just seen Disco's two superb goals. Both extremely well taken. However the way every one has gone on about his seiond I have to admit a tinge of disappointment. Don't get me wrong - It was a great strike - although some may say speculative - from I would say 35 yards. However, distance wise it seems to be getting further out the more I read ie 45 yards and then 50 yards on some reports. It would seem that if you have a long shot and it hits the cross bar bounces down and back up into the roof of the net it makes the goal 'better' than if it just went straight into the back of the net. A good example, is Yeboha's goal from a few years back which I thought was good - but this off the bar business seemed to make it legendary.
     
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    Ballax

    Any goal improves immesaurably by clattering underside of bar.

    The same rule applies (but in revesrse) when hitting the inside of a post (and scoring)

    FACT
     
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    Suppose you just had to be there to appreciate it ( H )
     
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    RE: Ballax

    That does make sense......................a 'clean' goal that didn't rely on the woodwork for 'assistance' into the net is obviously not better than one that hit the woodwork and could have easily bounced on the line or back out and thus not be a goal.
     
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    RE: Ballax

    I think the idea is to hit the ball nice and hard as far away from the keeper whilst still getting it on target.

    By hitting it in off the post/bar you're generally putting it the furthest distance possible from the keeper before it nestles in the back of the net and thats what makes them good goals. The fact that it is inch perfect in its positioning away from the keeper.
     
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    Goals in off underside of bar

    precision / blasters

    off post / placers
     
  7. Gue

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    the sound of it smacking against the bar can't be beaten nt
     
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    RE: Ballax

    Inch perfect if the swerve, spin, flight what you want to call it - plus the wind direction etc etc favours the striker and not the keeper......so, from free kicks and penalties aim for the inside of the post and keep your fingers crossed rather than a clean strike? Interesting - sort of can see what you are saying but having played footy many years myself I don't know of anyone who ever tried to score goals by aiming for the post rather than a gap.
     
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    RE: the sound of it smacking against the bar can't be beaten nt

    Much prefer the silence of it hitting the back of the net cleanly without the risk of the woodwork denying a goal- call me old fashioned if you like..
     
  10. Gue

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    Old fashioned

    :D
     
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    but where in that gap do you aim?

    As far away from the keeper as possible. ei as close to the post.
     
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    RE: but where in that gap do you aim?

    If it's hit with enough power and direction the keeper will very rarely stop a shot aimed and directed between the post and the keeper.....if you aim for the gap and slightly miscue you may hit the post, it may bounce out, it may go in...............if you aim for the post then you have absolutely no margin for error.

    Im still a gap man.................... but do occassionally shop at Next.
     
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    of course its better than going straight in. Hitting the crossbar means its further away from the keepers hands. but still good enough to go in. Therefore it is always better to hit the crossbar and get the ball in. it's the hardest thing to do when hitting a shot.I am not saying he meant it but it's bloody hard. </p>

    What if in his mind he saw the keepers hands lower than they really where when hestarted to takethe shot but then saw they where an inch or so higher.Then at the last second headjusted his shot , that would be genius? wouldn't it? I am in no way trying to suggest it happened but as far we know it could have?</p>

    PSit's not darts where hitting dead centre is better than clipping the wire !</p>
     
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    RE: but where in that gap do you aim?

    get a grip man ! It's the furthest away from the keeper and still went in (thus making the keepers job the hardestpossible !!) therefore its better. Not talking about what you should try and do it's what you ideally would do if you could !
     
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    RE: the sound of it smacking against the bar can't be beaten nt

    You're old fashioned ......................and wrong
     
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    RE: Ballax

    i know loads mate - thet don't actually aim for the post but as near to the inside of it as possible.
     

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