Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2015-16 The game is already well established, several seasons running now. The Sunderland ‘Black Cat Chat’ forum (and Hakuna Matata to be precise) does the real hard mathematical donkey work all during the season, whilst I am the representative from the Reading’s Royals Rendezvous forum and do more the ‘public relations’ type stuff as many already know. We are going to be your points of reference for all this coming season. Some 750 of you have already participated in previous seasons. But for newcomers, what is this game? It’s dead easy! You simply guess ONCE (now!) what you think will be the final league positions for the Premier League 2015-16 (that means placing all teams, in order from 1st to 20th), leave them on this thread, and then sit back and enjoy! Nothing more!! BUT … THIS SEASON THE GAME WILL BE SPECIFICALLY A FORUM EVENT, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER EVENT, OK?! That means don’t give rash selections like some did before in the hope for personal glory; now it’s a team average event, so putting the relegated three as the two Manchesters plus Chelsea is hardly going to get a healthy prospect for your forum… But this is an ideal way to keep fans from many different clubs all together… so where forums have an entry of a minimum of five people we will make a ‘board average’, thus you’ll be able to see how your forum copes against many of the others across the land. It is set against an single initial average entry taken from your forum guesses, and this average will be the forum entry. Before we have the first update each forum entry will be made clear on every participating forum. Five different member entries as a minimum is the requirement (no maximum!), this so as to avoid ‘fluke’ results which might distort the good guess-work averaged out by forums with large numbers. This game will initially take you a couple of minutes, and then enjoy without having to make updates at all, all season. Right, below are the current 20 Premier teams in alphabetical order – BEST IDEA is simply copy these onto your PC and re-arrange them in your finishing order come the end of the 2015-16 season. The Sunderland computer handles them in an alphabetical order initially so please help us with accurate spelling, as laid out below: Arsenal Aston Villa (please don’t write only ‘Villa’!!) Bournemouth Chelsea Crystal Palace (please don’t write only ‘Palace’!!) Everton Leicester City Liverpool Manchester City Manchester United Newcastle United Norwich City Southampton Stoke City Sunderland Swansea City Tottenham Hotspur (please don’t write only ‘Spurs’!!) Watford West Bromwich Albion West Ham United Try not to give any nicknames – putting the ‘Hammers’ or ‘Gunners’ or ‘Tigers’ or ‘Toffees’ or more disrespectful rival names might understandably be a good laugh – but it is simply a headache for us at our end so … Please!! According to your choices your forum will score points, and better still, very few, points. And how do you sparingly score those points? Scoring is as follows: For each team your forum scores one point for each place away from its predicted position. Example - if you predict Sunderland to finish 9th and they finish 9th, you score 0 points (that’s really excellent predicting). If they finish 13th you score 4 points or if they finish 7th you score 2 points. Therefore, the nearer you get to the exact position and have less points mounting up the better. I will endeavour to make updates at least at the beginning of every month during the season out of interest, and usually fortnightly, scoring points from the ‘real’ live premier table at each moment, but all leaderboards during the season are given for interest. So IMPORTANT! - The big winners are the forums at the end of the season who have LEAST points after the final game has been played. The table positions won’t change position so much in the later stages of the season so … how can we maintain interest to the end you might be thinking?! Well, we have MONTHLY rewards for those in the top positions! That’s points rewards for the highest positions at the end of every month (calculating from the REAL table on the 30th/31st - except when part-way through a weekend programme in which case we will wait to a maximum of Monday night for completed weekend programme to calculate progress reports). Here's the idea: 1st spot - take off 3 bonus points from score, so score dips even lower / 2nd - take off 2 bonus points / 3rd - take off 1 bonus point Bonus Points are for the most successful - Positions 1 to 3 – and includes tied points so there may well be far more than 3 teams involved. Their position for the deduction will be based on their (true) teams' score, not taking any previous deductions into account which you do keep all season of course on lowering your overall total. * LAST SEASON How did the best forums do 2014-15? Here goes! FORUM Honorary Gold Medal – Shared • DCFC Fans Derby County • Toffee Talk Everton FORUM Honorary Silver Medal – • United Lounge Manchester United FORUM Honorary Bronze Medal – shared • Foxes Talk Leicester City • Black Cat Chat Sunderland FORUM Honorary Diploma of Honour I • Baggies Zone West Bromwich Albion FORUM Honorary Diploma of Honour II – shared • Not 606 Hull Board Hull City • Toon Forum Newcastle United During the past two seasons these forums have participated in one way or another: Barnsley – Talk of the Tarn Blackburn – Rovers Talk Blackpool – Back Henry Street Bournemouth - CourtOffside Brighton – North Stand Chat Burnley – The Longside Cardiff – Cardiff City Forum Crystal Palace – The Holmesdale Derby – DCFC Fans Doncaster – Viking Chat Everton – Toffee Talk Fulham – Friends of Fulham Hemel Hempstead – Tudor Talk Hull – Not 606 Hull Board Leeds – LUFC Talk Leeds – Dirty Leeds Leicester – Foxes Talk Man City – MCFC Forum Man Utd – United Lounge Newcastle – Toon Forum Norwich – Not 606 Norwich Board Nottm Forest – The A Block Peterborough – Posh Forum QPR – Not 606 QPR Board Reading – Royals Rendezvous Sunderland – Black Cat Chat Swansea – Planet Swans Tottenham – Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Fans Forum Watford – WFC Forums West Brom – Baggies Zone West Ham – Cockney Boys Wigan – This Northern Soul (please excuse me if I have missed anyone out!) But we’ll also have some new ones this season ! Note - To avoid wums/trolls (or ‘jealous’ away fans) then what you see as any disruptive entry (e.g. an impossible order which would negatively help the forum) will not be included in the average entry at the request of any moderator/admin (by PM or on the thread itself), so if you see something strange please advise your mod team! IMPORTANT – ENTRIES IN BY 7TH AUGUST 2015 – late entries are not accepted, for we would not be able to add them to an average forum entry once the first Saturday matches have kicked off …! Have fun … daib0
Entries like this, MINE as an example, with your own order of teams of course! 1 Chelsea 2 Man Utd 3 Man City 4 Tottenham 5 Everton 6 Arsenal 7 Liverpool 8 West Ham 9 Crystal Palace 10 Swansea 11 Newcastle 12 Norwich City 13 Leicester City 14 West Brom 15 Sunderland 16 Southampton 17 Watford 18 Bournemouth 19 Stoke 20 Aston Villa An important reminder - we need a minimum of FIVE entries each forum to constitute a forum average entry!! Many forums ‘sticky’ or ‘pin’ this because we have proven we don’t quirk once the season has started, and this gets updated all-season long. If possible, this would help us no end, but if against internal policy then never mind … daib0
1. Arsenal 2. Man Utd 3. Chelsea 4. Man City 5. Tottenham 6. Everton 7. Liverpool 8. Southampton 9. Crystal Palace 10. West Brom 11. Stoke 12. Norwich City 13. West Ham 14. Sunderland 15. Swansea 16. Leicester City 17. Watford 18. Aston Villa 19. Bournemouth 20. Newcastle
1. Manchester United 2. Arsenal 3. Chelsea 4. Liverpool 5. Manchester City 6. Tottenham Hotspur 7. Crystal Palace 8. West Ham United 9. Stoke City 10. Everton 11. Swansea City 12. Southampton 13. Aston Villa 14. Norwich City 15. Newcastle United 16. Sunderland 17. West Bromwich Albion 18. Bournemouth 19. Leicester City 20. Watford Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
1 chelsea 2 manchester united 3 manchester city 4 arsenal 5 liverpool 6 tottenham hotspur 7 everton 8 swansea 9 crystal palace 10 southampton 11 west ham 12 newcastle 13 stoke city 14 sunderland 15 aston villa 16 west brom 17 norwich city 18 bournemouth 19 leicester city 20 watford
1: Arsenal 2: Chelsea 3: Manchester City 4: Manchester United 5: Tottenham Hotspur 6: Liverpool 7: Everton 8: Stoke City 9: West Ham 10: Swansea 11: Crystal Palace 12: Southampton 13: West Bromwich Albion 14: Leicester City 15: Norwich City 16: Newcastle United 17: Aston Villa 18: Watford 19: Sunderland 20: Bournemouth
1. Chelsea 2. Arsenal 3. Manchester City 4. Liverpool 5. Manchester United 6. Everton 7. Tottenham Hotspur 8. Swansea City 9. West Ham United 10. Crystal Palace 11. Stoke City 12. Southampton 13. Aston Villa 14. Newcastle United 15. Watford 16. Sunderland 17. Leicester City 18. Norwich City 19. West Bromwich Albion 20. Bournemouth
1 Manchester City 2 Chelsea 3 Manchester United 4 Arsenal 5 Tottenham Hotspur 6 Liverpool 7 Stoke City 8 Southampton 9 Everton 10 West Ham United 11 Crystal Palace 12 West Bromwich Albion 13 Aston Villa 14 Newcastle United 15 Swansea City 16 Leicester City 17 Sunderland 18 Norwich City 19 Bournemouth 20 Watford
1 Chelsea 2 Manchester Utd 3 Arsenal 4 Manchester City 5 Liverpool 6 Tottenham Hotspur 7 Crystal Palace 8 Everton 9 Swansea City 10 West Ham United 11 Southampton 12 Newcastle United 13 Stoke City 14 Norwich City 15 Aston Villa 16 Leicester City 17 Watford 18 Sunderland 19 West Bromwich Albion 20 Bournemouth
Well guys, I am about to go on holidays, high up in the Spanish Pyrenees, won’t have too much access in a fortnight, but I’ll be back strongly plugging this in the last week before the season kicks off. In the meanwhile, keep entries coming in and tell your pals! Latest Stats Board Entry Counts at the moment – 147 entries receive as of 8.30 pm today British Time. Everything safely noted down …. some 29 forums participating so far, 16 forums now with a minimum 5 necessary, and ages to kick-off yet! Board Entry Counts per forum at the moment, bold type have minimum already 14 – WFC Forums – Watford 12 - Foxes Talk – Leicester City 11 – Back Henry Street – Blackpool 10 - Baggies Zone – West Bromwich Albion 9 - Wolves Forum – Wolverhampton Wanderers 8 - Toon Forum – Newcastle United 7 - Talk of the Tarn – Barnsley 7 - Cardiff City Fans Forum – Cardiff 7 – Royals Rendezvous – Reading 7 - Claret and Banter – Bradford City 6 – DCFC Fans – Derby County 6 - LUFC Talk – Leeds United 5 - Extreme Football Forum – all teams 5 – North Stand Chat – Brighton 5 - Rovers Talk – Blackburn Rovers 5 – Not 606 Norwich Board – Norwich City 4 - The Holmesdale – Crystal Palace 4 – Viking Chat – Doncaster 4 - Tudor Talk – Hemel Hempstead 4 - Not 606 QPR Board – Queens Park Rangers 3 - The Posh Forum – Peterborough United 3 - Joys and Sorrows – Birmingham City 3 - Toffee Talk – Everton 2 - Not 606 Hull Board – Hull City 2 - MCFC Fans – Manchester City 2 – CourtOffside – AFC Bournemouth 1 - The Longside – Burnley 1 - Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Supporters Site – Spurs 1 - This Northern Soul – Wigan Athletic 1 - Cardiff City On-Line – Cardiff
1 Chelsea 2 Arsenal 3 Manchester United 4 Manchester City 5 Liverpool 6 Tottenham Hotspur 7 Swansea 8 Stoke City 9 West Ham United 10 Everton 11 Southampton 12 Aston Villa 13 Newcastle United 14 Crystal Palace 15 Sunderland 16 Leicester City 17 Norwich City 18 West Bromich Albion 19 Watford 20 Bournemouth
1 Arsenal 2 Chelsea 3 Manchester City 4 Liverpool 5 Manchester United 6 Stoke City 7 Tottenham Hotspur 8 Everton 9 Southampton 10 Newcastle United 11 Swansea 12 Aston Villa 13 Sunderland 14 Crystal Palace 15 West Ham United 16 West Bromich Albion 17 Leicester City 18 Norwich City 19 Bournemouth 20 Watford
1 Manchester United 2 Chelsea 3 Arsenal 4 Manchester City 5 Tottenham Hotspur 6 West Ham United 7 Liverpool 8 Swansea City 9 Everton 10 Southampton 11 Sunderland 12 Stoke City 13 West Bromwich Albion 14 Newcastle United 15 Crystal Palace 16 Watford 17 Norwich City 18 Aston Villa 19 Bournemouth 20 Leicester City
Latest Stats Board Entry Counts at the moment – 225 entries received in all as of today. Everything safely noted down …. Board Entry Counts per forum at the moment, bold type – that’s 23 team forums already - have the minimum to take part! 18 - WFC Forums - Watford 15 - The Holmesdale - Crystal Palace 14- Wolves Forum - Wolverhampton Wanderers 13 - Foxes Talk - Leicester City 12 - Toon Forum - Newcastle United 11 - Back Henry Street - Blackpool 10 - Baggies Zone - West Bromwich Albion 10 - Talk of the Tarn - Barnsley 10 - Royals Rendezvous - Reading 9 - Not 606 QPR Board - Queens Park Rangers 7 - Cardiff City On-Line - Cardiff 7 - Cardiff City Fans Forum - Cardiff 7 - Claret and Banter - Bradford City 7 - DCFC Fans - Derby County 7 - Toffee Talk - Everton 6 - LUFC Talk - Leeds United 6 - Extreme Football Forum - all teams 6 - Not 606 Norwich Board - Norwich City 5 - North Stand Chat - Brighton 5 - Rovers Talk - Blackburn Rovers 5 - Joys and Sorrows - Birmingham City 5 – CourtOffside - AFC Bournemouth 5 - The Longside - Burnley 5 - Viking Chat - Doncaster Next ones almost there … 4 - Tudor Talk - Hemel Hempstead 4 - The Posh Forum - Peterborough United 3 - Friends of Fulham – Fulham 3 - MCFC Fans - Manchester City 2 - Not 606 Hull Board - Hull City 2 - Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Supporters Site - Spurs 1 - This Northern Soul - Wigan Athletic 1 - Arsenal Fan Forum And I’ve still got to approach a half-dozen forums yet for the first time!
1 - Chelsea 2 - Manchester United 3 - Manchester City 4 - Arsenal 5 - Liverpool 6 - Tottenham Hotspur 7 - Everton 8 - Southampton 9 - Aston Villa 10 - West Bromwich Albion 11 - Crystal Palace 12 - Stoke City 13 - Swansea City 14 - West Ham United 15 - Newcastle United 16 - Leicester City 17 - Bournemouth 18 - Norwich City 19 - Sunderland 20 - Watford
Latest Info Just one week left, and I’ll next be back on Wed and/or Thursday – you have till FRIDAY night, please don’t forget!! Board Entry Counts at the moment – nearly 250 entries received in all as of today. Everything safely noted down …. Some 48 forums in all contacted Board Entry Counts per forum at the moment, bold type – that’s 27 team forums already - have the minimum to take part! WFC Forums - Watford The Holmesdale - Crystal Palace Wolves Forum - Wolverhampton Wanderers Foxes Talk - Leicester City Toon Forum - Newcastle United Back Henry Street - Blackpool Talk of the Tarn - Barnsley Baggies Zone - West Bromwich Albion Royals Rendezvous - Reading Not 606 QPR Board - Queens Park Rangers North Stand Chat - Brighton Claret and Banter - Bradford City Cardiff City Fans Forum - Cardiff Toffee Talk - Everton Cardiff City On-Line - Cardiff DCFC Fans - Derby County CourtOffside - AFC Bournemouth MCFC Fans - Manchester City Extreme Football Forum - all teams LUFC Talk - Leeds United Not 606 Norwich Board - Norwich City Rovers Talk - Blackburn Rovers Joys and Sorrows - Birmingham City The Longside - Burnley Viking Chat - Doncaster Tudor Talk - Hemel Hempstead The Posh Forum - Peterborough United Next ones … entries back, not yet to five though Friends of Fulham – Fulham Not 606 Hull Board - Hull City Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Supporters Site - Spurs Sports 262 Luton Board – Luton KopWorld – Liverpool This Northern Soul - Wigan Athletic Arsenal Fan Forum Not 606 Southampton Board - Southampton JA 606 Chelsea Board – Chelsea And I’ve still got to get responses from a further dozen forums, in part because some have been contacted just this morning
1 Chelsea 2 Manchester City 3 Manchester United 4 Arsenal 5 Liverpool 6 Tottenham Hotspur 7 Southampton 8 Everton 9 Stoke City 10 Swansea City 11 West Ham United 12 Newcastle United 13 West Bromwich Albion 14 Crystal Palace 15 Aston Villa 16 Leicester City 17 Sunderland 18 Watford 19 Bournemouth 20 Norwich City
1 Chelsea* 2 Man Utd* 3 Arsenal* 4 Man City* 5 Liverpool* 6 Stoke 7 Southampton* 8 Tottenham 9 Swansea 10 Everton* 11 West Ham 12 Crystal Palace* 13 West Brom* 14 Leicester City* 15 Newcastle* 16 Norwich City 17 Bournemouth 18 Aston Villa* 19 Watford 20 Sunderland*