Interesting bits from Keith's interview

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  1. Dys

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    'Mark Robins left for one reason - he didn't feel the budget was competitive. That's why we're here - to be competitive on that budget'

    'Remit - retain championship status. I'm being put under pressure for doing a job I've been asked to do. If the season finished tomorrow it will have been a bad season but we'll have met our objective'.

    'Roberto Martinez has the lowest win % of any Wigan manager but is probably the most successful'
     
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    Win percent is a load of ballax, don't know why Sky use it when they assess the managers, surely ppg should be used.
     
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  3. Dys

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    It's all a load of ballacks 'cos it ignores every other outside factor. Context.
     
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    keiths point is valid re wigan, and he's obviously alluding to our situation. keeping them in the premier league winning 25% of his games is a far greater achiement than winning league 2 with a 75% win ratio.
     
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    Exactly. Context.
     
  6. Whi

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    "We get the stats and everything is going to plan - other than the fact we're not winning football matches.."
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    No win in 9 games.
    Worst team in the division for chance conversion.
    No team has scored fewer goals.
    Despite conceding 5, 4, 4, 3, and 3 goals in games this season, according to Keith "our problem is obviously scoring goals.."
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    Can someone enlighten me about these stats that suggest everything is going to plan?
     
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    Just like points for a win or draw then.
     
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    Eh?
     
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    Me an all, eh?
     
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    Pass completion. Distance covered. Possesion.
     
  11. Dys

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    AKA foundations.
     
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    When you're one of the poorer sides in the league you expect a spanking every now and again. If you only score 1 in just over every two games you're always going to struggle, regardless of your defence.
     
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    What I mean is that points for a win or a draw take no "context" into account either. It is imple. Don't get enough points, go down.
     
  14. Whi

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    Not having it.
    Our problem isn't putting the ball in the net.
    It is having a weak central defence, a midfield easily run past without Perkins/O'Brien, a team who would rather play a short pass anywhere but forward, no width or wide players ont wrong flank, and a lack of leadership.
    Alter all that, and we'd score more, and concede less.
    To put our entire problems down to goalscoring is ******. But KK daren't admit that.
     
  15. Whi

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    A while ago, folk like Dyson (and me, back when I was obliviously blind) used injuries as an excuse.
    He has nearly 40 players now, so...
    I agree with sumat that sumdi said t'other day - once he has a full squad to pick from he's gash.
    His best results came when he couldn't **** with the lineup. And played (9 out of 17 wins) Bobby Hassell.
     
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    'Worst team in the division for chance conversion.
    No team has scored fewer goals'

    We've conceded one goal in 8 games this year. We've taken 2 points from those games. Even if we score a goal in 4 of those games we're 4 points better off and looking a lot prettier.

    You write off the batterings - they're always going to happen in this league. It's the tight games you need to get something from and we're not. The key problem.
     
  17. Whi

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    I get that, and it is an issue. But the reasons go back to (a) the defence - who aren't able to do what they are asked which is play it out from the back
    and (b) a lack of width.
    The pedestrian speed we 'play' doesn't help, nor does both playing people out of position or ignoring key players.
    Blaming goals makes it sound like the forwards are to blame or ****.
     
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    We've scored in each of our last 4 games but poor defending has meant we've picked up just 2 points out of 12. We scored in each of our first 9 games but poor defending meant we only picked up 11 points out of 27.
    We've only failed to score 5 times but due to conceeding goals thats only transfered into 4 wins.
     
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    We score less than a goal a game, I don't understand how people at are attempting to defend our goalscoring record and blame it all on the defence. Mind boggling.
     
  20. Whi

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    Nobody is blaming it 'all' on the defence. But I take it you attend games? You happy with that defence? McNulty and Wiseman failing to impose themselves, passing it to the opposition. Golbourne beating his man then turning and passing backwards. McNulty and Foster trying 30 yard dream balls into our forwards chest. Cranie being as pedestrian and carefree as me at work on a Friday. No Bobby Hassell.
    If defending includes the forwards, the the attacking must include the defence?
    I could pick a better shape and eleven than Keith right now, but the centre halves would still be our weakness - he chose not to fix it.
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    Steele
    Stones
    Hassell
    Foster
    McNulty
    O'Brien
    Perkins
    Buzsaky
    Noble-Lazarus
    Tudgay
    Davies
     

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