Is part of being a good manager...

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  1. Journo Tyke

    Journo Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Letting bygones be bygones for the good of the team?

    Personally if I was Simon and I'd fallen out with someone like Kozluk, I'd call him in for a meeting, clear the air and move on, rather than weaken the team.

    Same with Christensen.

    Okay if someone does nothing but undermine you after that then fair enough.
     
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    You will never be a manager

    you talk too much sense :D :D :D
     
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    Has he fallen out with him then?

    Or are we just presuming so?
     
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    yes he has. Tried telling him that he was wrong about tactics

    (wicked) (wicked)
     
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    Journo Tyke Well-Known Member

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    My personal opinion is...

    That if I was a manager, at that level particularly, I would welcome ideas and feedback from my players on tactics and such like.

    If it becomes moaning and unconstructive criticism, or it's murmuring behind your back then I wouldn't be too happy, but sometimes when you do criticised you have to look at yourself, I certainly do in all walks of life.
     
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    the art of managing conflicts well is to come out with a win win solution for both parties

    seems to me that davey is coming up with win lose solutions, ie he wins the argument the team loses the game</p>

    coaching badges are all well and good, but I not sure how well they prepare you for man managing footballers</p>

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    Journo Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Anyway what do I know?

    I'm just a 'failed wannabe journalist' :D
     
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    RE: yes he has. Tried telling him that he was wrong about tactics

    And you're sure about that?

    Or are you just guessing about what may have happened?
     
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    You are assuming that there has been a fallout with those two players.</p>

    Or do you know something the rest of us don't? </p>

    Davey is on record as saying that it's the work players put in to their training that influences him when picking the team.</p>

    Perhaps it's a Prema Donna attitude some of the players have in thinking they should be an automatic choice for the team which is the problem and not SD.</p>

    Fergie leaves a player out and it's good management, showing the players who's the boss. Davey leaves a player out and he gets slated for being a crap manager. No matter what he does he get slagged off.
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    Journo Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Did I say he's a crap manager?

    I'm merely debating a point.

    Yes some professional footballers are too big for their boots and need to be knocked down a peg or two, but there's nothing wrong with a little bit of arrogance and confidence sometimes.

    If these players are so rubbish in training - Kim, Kozzy et al, then why did he sign them?

    I cannot believe that Christensen would do any worse than any of our other strikers, in fact I'd put money on it.
     
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    RE: yes he has. Tried telling him that he was wrong about tactics

    trust me. its true.

    :( :(

    Davey has had approaches from a few players about his Tactics and always dismissed them.
     
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    Fergie can afford to go out and get a replacement we can`t.
     
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    RE: Did I say he's a crap manager?

    Admittedly I have only seen Christensen playing in the reserves 3 or 4 times.</p>

    But from what I have seen he hasn't made a case for a starting a Championship match and reports I have been getting from other games suggest the same.
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    I'm sure I've read reports where he's scored a few goals

    In the reserves... no?

    Did he not get a hat-trick in one game, left foot, right foot and a header?

    Maybe I dreamt it!
     
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    Wouldn't it be bad management if Davey let the players have it all their own way?
    As I said earlier, choose what Davey does he gets slagged off.

    Usually by folk who have no idea what goes on in a Club.
     
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    Yes but how far do you take it?

    One word against him and that's it, no further chance?

    Like I said in the initial post, surely a time comes when you call it quits and give them another chance?
     
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    RE: Yes but how far do you take it?

    Well I don't know but may be you do.</p>

    I'm all for having a good bust up to clear the air but after that the slate should be wiped clean and we get on with the job.
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    Davey continues to develop his managerial skills but I do wish he would(an assumption) take on board that he does not know it all.
     
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    As Brian Clough used to say....

    When he had a problem with a player, he would call him in, talk about it and then do it his way.
     
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