Is the loan system being abused by clubs?

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    Tyke_67, Sep 8, 2015
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    It is definitely being abused by some clubs - Chelsea are a great example of it. For them its just a case of buying up any prospect so other clubs can't buy them. They then ship them out on loan to clubs where the players should really be at.
     
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    And then sell them at a later date.

    Man Utd etc have been using thus system for years. They make millions and it's another income stream for there vastly overpaid prima donnas
     
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    For example Bamford. He's probably worth about £5 million at the moment. Chelsea signed him for £1.5 million from Forest in 2012. Big profit, do that with 30 players and you're rolling in it

    Problem is it doesn't benefit the players or of course England

    The big clubs just hoard players. As well as those 30 players on loan, Chelsea have 20 players in their U21 squad and another 23 in their U18 squad. So around 70 players most of which will probably never play for Chelsea
     
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    Not that profitable if they're covering large salaries for a prolonged period. Agree they hoard to make sure they don't miss out on the one or two gems that undoubtedly will be amongst them. The thought of Pogba leaving Man Utd for free makes me chuckle.
     
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    Not going to be that large for academy players

    These clubs aren't stupid so I'm sure it will be profitable

    Hoarding players to try and find a gem is selfish and doesn't really benefit anyone least of all the players but if the clubs make a profit that's all they care about
     
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    It's clearly absurd.

    All the league have to do is restrict the number of players a team can loan in OR OUT.

    That will stop best talent being hoovered up to be farmed out, and also make clubs release young talent they don't think will make their first team.

    If the powers that be REALLY want to improve England's chances this is the first thing they will do. But they won't. Greed League rules over everything else.
     
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    The worry is that they'd carry on as normal but not loan them out. Would be even worse.
     
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    Doesn't have to be profitable, just needs to be cheaper than paying £50m for Raheem Sterling. I don't have the figures to back this up, but I suspect the youth/academy spend at Chelsea is bigger than their income from sales of those players.
     
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    But they wouldn't as they offset the wages by getting loan fees. Often actually making profit from loaning them out. Someone mentioned Bamford earlier and supposedly Chelsea loan him out for his full wages and a hefty loan fee. Probably a couple of million.

    They wouldn't do that, and young players wouldn't sign for a club with 60 first team pros if it meant they would never get a game. Also would stop ridiculous wages being offered to young kids.

    Teams like Barnsley may keep our talent, and perhaps be able to get more.
     
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    I've read before that a lot of youth loans go out for nowt.

    And they'd still be offered more wages to be part of chelsea's youth set up than we'd pay them so many would still sign. Back yourself to make it and get paid more. If it doesn't work out you can start playing professionally lower down at 21/22.
     
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