Isgrove / M Smith

I would like to see Winnall & Toney together. I think either peeling down the channel will create space for the other. Not Sure LJ knows what attacking formation and tactics he wants.

 

Have you not seen Jackson peel off down the channel?

He does it better than anone else we have.

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There's summat not reight with M Smith. His record last season suggests he's a decent to good striker but this manager can't get anything out of him.

 

When i've seen Smith he just looks like he can't be arsed, his movements are fairly lethargic

 

I forget how long Isgrove has signed for but it needs to be cut short. He looked promising at first with shades of David Speedie in his play, at least from the point of view of him being small but getting up well for high balls. But he has steadily gone downhill, along with the rest of the team. He may as well go back home.

Smith is a very curious one. You can't say he is missing "the south" because he is a north easterner and, I believe, all his family are up there. This was probably a good move for him, so why he is playing like he has treacle on the bottom of his boots I don't know. He can't jump, he can't run and how many shots on goal has he had since he arrived? Not many is the answer to that. Needs to go back to Swindon, and this week not in January.

 

I dont understand how smith gets stick like he does, he scored 20 goals last year comes to oakwell and dosent get a chance. He looks like he could be a handful but the numpty in charge is so inconsistant with his selection he dosent get a propper run! I feel sorry for smith he must be scratching his head half the time.

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Yes i have.

 

Its hard to say, but i am pretty sure we haven't seen what he can do at this level especially as he has been typically brought on late in games we are normally losing and in a losing mentality squad. But we can keep sending Crowley, Rothwell, Harris, Smith, Wilkinson, and soon Toney back but how the loanees are playing seems to be only small part of the problem.

 

That's the top and bottom of it is that like Jackson they have not had a decent run all season and thats down to playing the one up front for most of the season.
Isgrove is just another loan so there is no bond either way sometimes he may play well other times not.

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Jonson has already answered that.. under the condition of the loan, he cannot be sent back, cos we still have to pay for him till Jan. Wilkinson is the same..

 

Half of Smith's goals last year were penalties, most of the other 9 were tap ins. And he was playing in a side with Byrne, Gladwin, Luongo, Kasim in it, etc etc. Look at his other seasons, at Wimbledon and other shitty clubs. Unremarkable career. But all that's irrelevant anyway, it matters not what he's done elsewhere, what matters is how he performs for us. And so far he's giving Richard ******* Naylor a run for his money for worst loan striker in my lifetime.

Isgrove was a bizarre signing, as I thought was obvious at the time. Another feeble midget with no end product. We can send the latter back, but Smith and Wilkinson are here until January whether we like it or not. However, we don't have to pick either of them.

 

I said it to Offspring yesterday, that the statistical spreadsheet scounting is ok when there is real scouting to back it up. What it doesn't give is who the players alongside are versus those they will play with here. That can't be handled by a spreadsheet and its where the skill of the scouts and coaches have to deliver. I have seen some decent players with better track records join us and look out of place. Building a team is more than a collection of individuals

 

His confidence will be **** at the mo as is a lot of players and thats down to johnson. For me until he starts getting a run int team we cant judge him. As as for giving richard naylor a run for his money hes not even close.

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Completely agree & posted something similar a few weeks back.

What a university graduate picking players on stats doesn't realise is players who have good stats tend to have a team built round them.

An example been Brian Howard at Barnsley. He goes to Sheff Utd & is just another player & has nowhere near the same effect as he had for us.

We signed Luke Berry because he'd scored loads from midfield in the conference but then ask him to play a dogs body role in a team designed to get the best out of Hourihane & Winnall.

Why didn't we just sign a lad suited to the dogs body role in the first place instead of realising a few months later & signing Scowen?

 

Ok, I must have forgotten about that. Two VERY poor bits of business then, particularly so for Wilkinson.

On paper though both looked like decent acquisitions. The fact that neither have had a decent run of games to prove themselves doesn't help but that's what happens when you use a scatter gun to formulate your transfer policy.

Ben: Who do you need Lee?
Lee: I want him, and him, and him, and him, and him ............

 

I'm not convinced Smith is useless.

In the home games I've seen he's won quite a lot of knockdowns. Yesterday there were 2 or 3 that were inches from dropping perfect for Winnall or Hourihane.

I think the questions should be asked about the manager though.

Smith & Winnall scored at this level, Jackson scored in the championship, Toney scored plenty in league 2 & got a move to a Prem side, Isgrove did well in the championship for Wednesday, Hourihane not shooting from range as much as last season. Got to ask why it's happening and the one connection is Lee Johnson

 

I would say good business. It would have been bad business signing them at the outset fully on say 2 year deals

 

From what I`ve seen of Smith is that he jumps from a standing start, so therefore needs balls accurately placed on his head, he aint got the first idea to run and attack a ball in the air. Reminds me of owd Watford Striker Ross Jenkins though not as good.

 

So the only factor that it could possibly be is that he has got worse since he started training under LJ !!! I cant understand why that could be, Lj is a smart, hard working , ambitious young manager ! Apparently !