It appears that some board members want to blame GS.......

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  1. Ruf

    Rufus New Member

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    but, if the stories from Oakwell are true, then, GS has offered finances to AR to strengthen the team, but these monies have been declined, along with bad substitutions, his apparent dislike of using Nardiello and his unwavering faith in Tommy Wright and Colin Healy, combine all this with missed transfer targets and our dismal showing in the first cup comp, where a run would bring in much needed money, the blame can only lay at AR's door.

    GS, is well aware of these short comings, hence his reluctance to offer AR a renewed contract this early, It would'nt surprise me, if, at christmas, there was a parting of the ways, unless of course AR suddenly figures out that the Loan/transfer market applies to all clubs, and that we are not excluded, I said last week, that if changes are not made to the playing staff, we would find it difficult to avoid relegation, I have not changed my mind.
     
  2. La Dent de Crolles

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    What if the funds offered aren't enough to get in the quality AR thinks we need?
     
  3. Gue

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    You have hit the nail on the head, the fact is Ritchie has been offered finances and suggestions for available players by the board, even Cryne offered before the season started a sum of 500k purely for wages for the right players to keep the club in this decision. If you think back to last weeks Radio interview with GS, he even stated that they have a player at Man Utd who they can call on at any time!! has Ritchie even indicated that he needs new players?? no he has not.
    Its interesting when you hear the likes of GS speak and then listen to AR how they have different views.
    I agree that if we are in the mire in December then there will have to be a change.
     
  4. EastStander

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    "Its interesting when you hear the likes of GS speak and then listen to AR how they have different views."

    So we don't know which is the true story
     
  5. Gue

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    AR's take on Transfers .......

    Yorkshire Post</p>

    Ian Appleyard
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    BARNSLEY manager Andy Ritchie admits that it is difficult to strengthen his side with loan signings because he is unable to offer a guarantee of regular first-team football.</p>

    Manchester United defender Phil Marsh is believed to be one of the players Ritchie wants to bring to Oakwell but the Old Trafford club prefer to sanction deals where a player is going to be involved on a weekly basis.
    Ritchie said: &quot;We are still looking to bring people in but it is difficult. We have looked at getting in people on loan from the Premiership but their clubs insist that they play every game – and I believe that some of our lads have not warranted being dropped from the side.
    &quot;I also want to bring one or two players in permanently in the January transfer window so we have to be careful with the finances as well.&quot;</p><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext">Full Report ...... </div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext">  http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=4877&amp;ArticleID=1835699</div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext"></div><div class="va-bodytext">
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  6. Gue

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    A.R. might be looking at the Sheff.W. goings on. Sturrock spent a lot of money without a great deal of success. What if the players he acquires aren't up to standard. Take Tommy Wright for example, A.R must think he's good|
     
  7. Gue

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    "if the stories from Oakwell are true"

    The stories about the only manager in football who turns down money to strengthen his squad?</p>



    Heh heh.</p>
     
  8. SuperTyke

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    What I find odd

    PC hinted that money would be available for chopra, AR said he wanted chopra yet GS said no approach would be made.</p>

    For me that points at one particular person putting the block on it. </p>
     
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    "and I believe that some of our lads have not warranted being dropped"

    i disagree with you there Andy, I think that all of the following warrant at least a spell in the reserves:

    Austin
    Heckingbottom
    Williams
    Devaney
    Hayes
    Richards

    Furthermore, all three areas (Def, Mid and Att) need more competition for places and improved cover, and we still do not have an adequate replacement when Colgan is unavailable
     
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    But taking players on loan

    No manager should guarentee them a first team place regardless, that is not the way to strengthen the side and endender a good team spirit.

    I'd back him at not bringing loanees under such a condition.
     
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    RE: But taking players on loan

    agree in part - our team selection should not be dictated by anyone other than our manager. however, if for example the manager identifies a player that he wants to take on loan (Shipps, for the sake of argument) I would have no problem informing Sheff Utd that he will be picked in the first team at the expense of either Richards or Hayes, and would retain that first team place if he comes up with the goods. Surely that would do for Warnock?

    if the players coming in on loan are better than the current crop (and what's the point in going for them if they aren't?) then they're gonna get in the first team anyway
     
  12. Gue

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    RE: But taking players on loan

    Surely AR would not be interested in taking him on loan if he's not good enough for the first team. As you say Heckingbottom/Williams deserve to be dropped. . Get this young lad in on loan and play him. If he turns out that he's no better, which I seriously doubt, then send him back after a month.
     
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    I'm really confused

    Why on earth would any manager refuse funding for new squad members? It doesn't seem logical at all.
     
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    Depends,

    if funds are avaible to sign players he doesnt want then whats the point.</p>

    It looks to me like the funds werent made available to sign the players AR wanted.</p>
     
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    RE: But taking players on loan

    I agree too Hecky and Williams have been poor and i think they would admit it too,bring a lad in to play but it's not just that area,midfield and attack too.

    I wish Nards would start from the off
     
  16. Harry Hough

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    I'm not sure we have any concrete evidence on who exactly is to blame. Too much "I head it from am mate of someone who is a very good friend of someone who works in the Club Shop's Milkman, if you ask me!
     
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    RE: "First Team Football"

    Why would a loan player not get first team football (assuming he is of the required standard)?

    It's up to AR to determine if he IS of the required standard before bringing him in. THAT IS PART OF HIS JOB.

    If Andy is unsure as to whether a particular loan player is going to be good enough for this division, then I'm a bit worried.
     
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    Milkman? Milkman?

    Is Roundsie behind all this??
     
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    In that respect, why is loaning different to buying?

    You wouldn't (intentionally) buy someone who was not good enough for the first team, so why would you loan someone inferior.

    If the loan player is better than the guy he is "replacing", then he will get first team football.

    It's part of Andy's job to assess players before he brings them in.
     
  20. Harry Hough

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    New players in January

    So if this is true he must have targets. Is it not possible to take them on loan with a view to permenant moves or is AR worried that it would alert other clubs (ie. the Blunts & Cardiff City) who would leap in and sanatch them from under our noses?
     

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