It's starting...the end of the league as we know it!

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  1. Gor

    Gordon Ottershaw Well-Known Member

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    The FA are looking at introducing premiership B teams into the league pyramid. Maybe merging with League Two or the Conference to create regional leagues. They're then wondering how far they will allow the B teams up the pyramid.

    This is the first step towards loads of clubs disappearing or becoming the B team for the premiership giant. Within 10-20 years we will have a premiership of 18 clubs, a second division of 24 clubs and then two regional leagues with at least half of them being either second teams for the bigger clubs or feeder clubs for the bigger clubs.

    You watch, if the B teams thingy doesn't pass they'll start looking at whether the big clubs can adopt a lower league team and have a loan arrangement whereby they can loan as many players as they want to that one team. In other words teams like Man United will turn teams like Bury into their B team. Initially a few teams will go for it and then we'll all realise that this will mean that the big teams will have their way and there will no longer be promotion and relegation between the two premiership divisions and the rest of the league.
     
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    Saw this earlier, if it happens I'm done with football.
     
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    Just relax the loan rules on u21 players

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    So basically, the big clubs want to give their fringe players more game time, so they can make even more money, quicker. **** the Football League. Appalling recommendations
     
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    The FL who run these leagues ought to tell them to **** off
     
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    Me too
     
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    Surely these B teams would have to start at the very bottom of pyramid like any newly formed team? - if not then I'm sure AFC Wimbledon would have serious grounds for complaint against the FA/FL.

    It would also need strict rules against promotlon like they have in Spain/Portugal - maybe not even allow them into the top four divisions.
     
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    It's a shocking set of recommendations, born out of nothing other than to grease the PL wheels even more.
     
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    As we all know B teams were in a B team league. To put the rich money clubs into the lower leagues is the death hell for the smaller clubs. How can they get promoted playing Man city, Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool etc B teams. They might get a slightly better gate to watch some of these players but overall it is stupid.
    There again when has the sweet FA given a **** about lower leagues
     
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    In Spain the B Teams play up to the 2nd Div, the equivalent of our Championship. They can't get promoted to the top filght, play in the promotion playoffs and also can't play in the same Div as their respective A Team. So for instance, if the A Team gets Relegated from the top filght, the B Team gets automatic relegation from the 2nd tier (if they are playing at that level). In 2011-12 Villareal B got relegated from the 2nd flight after finishing 12th as Villareal got relegated from the top tier! That would go down well in England wouldn't it?
     
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    I've just about given up on football anyway. Today we have the announcement of the £50million fine for Man City (which won't stick) and then this pile of bilge.

    The problem is that the more people like me say that football is almost dead, the more other people point to the spiralling wages, capacity crowds of people prepared to pay through the nose, millions of Sky subscribers ready to shell out £50 per month to line the players' pockets. Looked at in a financial sense, the PL is a major success.

    However, our national side is crap and clubs like Barnsley, who stick to the financial rules, are ever crapper. Totally demoralising.
     
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    reason given for this appalling proposal is that it will help the English national team -- it wont!
     
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    If this comes in I'm finished with football full stop.

    The game is run by total arseholes.
     
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    I think a big clubs could adopt a town like say city choose Wakefield Utd bath and Liverpool Warrington Everton wildness and so on to play their home games have a 24 team league all games kick off at 11-00 on a Sunday and charge £4 adults and a quid for a kid and do it that way but anything else and I disagree with it
     
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    Do you type this stuff, or use some voice software? It is hard to work out your point with this "stream of consciousness" type post.
     
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    As most others say above - If that happens I will give up and probably start watching club rugby instead

    Unless of course they created a league specially for the B teams to play in - we used to have one when I was younger called the central league I think at least thats what we played in and played the likes of Man Utd reserves

    games were included in your Season ticket or only cost a few quid on the gate
     
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    I think the new version is the Professional Development League where the U21s now play...
     
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    To be fair, Spain haven't done too badly the last few years, and they allow it.

    I am against it though, just for the record.

    Why don't they just bring the reserve league back? Problem solved.
     
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    Gordon Ottershaw Well-Known Member

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    Problem is, I, along with many footy fans up and down the country, don't give a flying **** about the national football team, the Champions League or the Premiership for that matter. All I care about is what got me interested in footy in the first place, having a local team to support and dreaming of said local team achieving success, getting to the first division and winning the FA Cup. We were a fourth division team when I started watching them and yet within 20 years we got to the first division and 10 years later we almost won the FA Cup. If the big teams get their way all those dreams in young kids heads up and down the country are going to disappear. They will then be pinning their hopes on every little kid growing up being happy to subscribe to Sky and support the same half a dozen football teams. It then becomes a media thing, rather than a getting out of the house watching live footy and being inspired to go down to the park and play footy thing, and there are plenty of other options media wise that are far cheaper. Football will eat itself.

    I care far more that supporters of Barnsley, Rochdale, FC Halifax, Stocksbridge Park Steels and so forth can keep their teams and their aspirations than I care about whether Wayne Rooney gets his £50k per week pay rise. Unfortunately, a move like this was never far away and once the Premiership decides it wants to do something there's no stopping it. Just look at the way the TV money is distributed or the way they stitched up the smaller clubs with the changes that allow them to nick youth players. Obscene.
     
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    I just read all the proposals unbelievable what utter nonsense its the end of the small clubs dreams of making the big time, all the best players taken by the greedy clubs. Promotion from League 1 would be virtually impossible making the top two leagues a closed shop.
     

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