Joe Willock

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  1. Bol

    BoltonMascot Well-Known Member

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    Signed for Newcastle in a deal worth 20m +.

    Madness.

    If we get less than 12m for Styles we need to take a serious look at our business practices. We should be looking for high teens, that could seriously change our fortunes for years to come.
     
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    Are we selling Styles?
     
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    We inevitably will do unless he stays forever. I think he's right aswell with todays fees. Helik must be worth 7 million.
     
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    Apparently :D
     
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    I'd be bitterly disappointed if we sold Helik for less than £10 million. After all Marc Roberts went for £5 million. I loved Marc Roberts, but he's not remotely in Helik's league. Plus he's a full international for a serious European team.
     
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    I am not sure what prompted you to bring a valuation of Styles compared to the transfer of a premier club player between two premier clubs, for a start off Styles has never played premier league football & secondly Willock was scoring goals on a regular basis last season at top level, Styles has only really played wing back for us so you cannot compare them position wise & until a top flight team actually shows interest then you cannot put a value on him , regarding Willock I think Newcastle have got a good player on their books an excellent signing .
     
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    Yep, Prem to Prem is different gravy. Blunts bought Ramsdale for £18m, watched him perform his craft for the worst Prem team in many a year, yet now value him at £30m.
    How do they justify that valuation?
     
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    Well, they are both 21 year old, English center midfielders (I don't think we will be seeing Styles at LWB going forward). So certainly comparable.

    And yes, Willock did have a 7 game purple patch last season, but had never really done anything outside of that. That's also why I quoted that Styles would most likely get a lower price. Us not being a premier league team does not necessitate he should be sold for less, Bentford sold Benrahma for 20m +.

    Of course you can put a value on your player at any time, in fact all your players should have a projected maximum value on them at all times, surely that's just pragmatic?

    After starring in a playoff bound season last season, Styles is realistically another good season away from attracting bids of this caliber. An upper mid table finish and a goal return between 10-15 would 100% see bids come in around that mark.
     
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    What’s the comparison between Styles and Willock? You can’t just argue they’re both English midfielders of a similar age. Willock was highly regarded at Arsenal, represented England at many youth levels, scored 8 goals in 14 games for Newcastle last season. Styles has barely played in the middle of the park above League One level.

    I’m all for getting a good value for our players, but some of the comparisons on here are f*cking mental at times.
     
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    It’s ok. Woodrow is worth twice as much as Toney so we’ve got loads of cash coming at some point - proper value.
     
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    Why? Willock went on loan there & was outstanding, scoring goals for fun from midfield in the premier league.

    Styles has 1 good season in the championship & is unproven in his preferred position
     
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    The thing with Styles is that there has been a clamour from the reds faithful to put him in the midfield but up to now he has played one championship match there & to be honest the jury will be out for a while yet to see if he actually succeeds , we all want him to but at this moment in his career we are still talking about potential & at the end of the day a player is only worth what someone will pay for them , one thing for certain is that there will not be a queue of premier clubs wanting to sign him currently & he is certainly not yet in the Willock class therefore I repeat I do not think you can compare the two players valuation wise .
     
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    Do we have to do this every time a footballer gets bought/sold?

    Its not even a remotely comparable transfer. Joe Willock scored 8 premier league goals last season.
     
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    I wouldn't have usually made the direct comparison between them, it came about because Willock moved today for what I think is an absurd figure for someone who has had one good 8 game spell.

    I was making the point that in the current climate, a similarly 'absurd' amount for Style isn't actually out of the question.
     
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    Think Styles has huge potential but not sure what he’s done yet to justify. £12m price tag.
    Fingers crossed and all that…..
     
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