Joey Barton Trial

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  1. Baldrick

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    Baldrick, Jun 4, 2021
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    My moneys on the case being dropped on the day
     
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    Sadly I tend to agree.
     
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    If it was going to be dropped it would have happened before it got to Crown Court
     
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    This won't be dropped, a defendant would struggle get any favourable treatment if they plead guilty on the day. An individual would have had ample time to do this, a judge won't view such behaviour favourably. The courts are struggling to cope as it is, so time wasters aren't treated with kid gloves.
     
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    Headline: Bully Barton Begins Blife Bsentence.
     
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    One of lifes sh ithouses.
     
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    Barton’s take on this is interesting:
    He admits to being responsible for Daniel’s injuries, but has pleaded not guilty to GBH (so is it an accident?)

    At the same time he’s fed the press a defence of provocation. Strikes me he’s gone for a scattergun approach to stop looking like a thug, but that’s not going to play out under scrutiny in court.
     
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    My ex brother in laws case reached crown court and was dropped... does happen
     
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    After pending for two years?
     
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    It isn't wise to have this thread - be really careful what you write. Best to say nothing at all.
     
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    The reasons a case is dropped (all too common nowadays).
    The defendant hopes somethings gone wrong with the prosecution case then pleads guilty at the last minute.
    The victim gives up after a long wait, as the trauma of the hearing will open wounds they’re healing.
    The prosecution fails to get a lawyer into the building to start the case because the CPS is a shambles (too common, but less likely in a high profile case).
     
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    Yes, I'll amend some of my wording. However if any defendant uses forms of media to plead their case before trail. A media interference mistrial defense wouldn't hold much water.
     
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    Guilty plea to Common Assault.
    ABH dropped.
    Little bit of compensation to Mr Stendel.
    And we all have the afternoon off!
     
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    His attempt at a quick getaway. Would like to hear his reason behind that.
     
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    With Barton’s previous, could he not expect jail time for a guilty plea of common assault?
     
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    "It was a long time ago, Your Honour!"
     
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    Plus the starting point in the sentencing guidelines is below custody for Common Assault - which is why he'd offer a plea on the day to that one.
     
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    But shouldn’t a plea on the day mean he’ll not likely be looking at the minimum sentence?

    I appreciate the courts and jails are in a state, but he’s had plenty of opportunity to plea bargain.

    Also on the mitigation for his previous, isn’t there a subsequent case outstanding too? Surely no judge is going to look at his record and think ‘upstanding citizen who just made a mistake’.
     
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    His brief would likely ask for an indication of sentence before allowing Le Joey to enter a plea to the lesser offence. And judges deal with much worse incidents than this in the scheme of things.
     
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