Starting for England tomorrow night. Brilliant stuff. Amazing how far he has come so quickly. Well done John.
Great news that he gets a start. I still won't watch any of it mind. Not surprising that it could be the lowest international crowd so far at the new Wembley.
Mansford said he couldn't reveal what the terms of the deal were but if John Stones played for England we as a club would be happy with that (with a hint of suggestion it was financial). We either have a ££ per cap or we got £ for his first cap. Or Mansford perhaps wasn't really insinuating what he was seeming too. Wish all bloody transfers were made transparent. Cuts out all the guessing.
happy because he is a barnsley lad, if there is any money involved i would be surprised and very pleased at the same time
I'm not sure he did say that. I think it was more along the lines of if he did well and got a big move, i.e. We have a sell on clause rather than an international cap clause. At the end of the day, we got £3m plus a percentage for a teenage defender, who played around 20 professional games, playing out of position in a penniless team that ultimately got relegated from the second flight, albeit probably a year after we deserved to. He's gone on to develop in a way that Butterfield, Hammill, McIndoe, Vaz Te, Davies and all the other players we feel ripped off about haven't and he has now made the England squad, after playing not many more games for Everton than he played for us. But he's a local lad who comes back as often as he can and remains a Reds supporter, so, and I'm not having a go at you or anybody else on this particular thread here, but I wish we could stop all the whinging about how little we got and all just be genuinely pleased for the lad. I'd rather spend my energy supporting the next bunch of lads coming through the Academy and I'd be more than happy to lose a great player each year on the same terms we lost Stones.
We got our pants pulled down, big-time. I work with a Blunt, and he likes to complain about how his lot always get shafted when selling players. I said to him that generally they get a better deal than Barnsley do, and reckoned even in League One the Blunts would have sold Stones for twice as much as we did when we were in the Championship! Future England captain, gone for three million pounds, when he was under contract and we had no need to sell. It was a shameful piece of business. I understand that we have to sell our best players. I expect them to go, eventually. Just please, please, please, get something like the going rate for them. Christ, we've undersold so many. I understand about clauses in contracts, but it's still devastating. Would the Blunts, Wednesday or Leeds have taken £500,000 for Vaz Té? £500,000 for Hammill? £350,000 (or whatever it was) for Craig Davies? £3million for Stones? As I said, I understand about clauses in contracts, but it's so bloody frustrating, and it's held us back. I hope, though, it's a thing of the past. I think Mansford might drive a bit more of a hard bargain, and if he does, along with the incremental improvements he seems to be overseeing on the commercial side of things, then we've got something like a viable (lower-end budget) Championship club, instead of a Championship club struggling along with a League One budget. As for Stones, good luck to him. I couldn't care less about England, but it's great for him, and it can't possibly reflect badly on us as a club, so I hope he becomes a regular international - and, more importantly, I hope there's a bit of cash in it for us!
£500k for Vaz Te - considering his one good season in football history and having six months of his contract to go, not that bad a deal £500k for Hammill - could argue we wouldn't have had him at all other than that buy out clause. I'm happy we had him. £350k for Davies - are you really complaining about that? Tearing up trees currently and wanted out. Fair deal if you ask me. We let our heads rule our heart sometimes with Stones, but the fact is we didn't get an awful deal. Could we have bargained harder? Maybe, but it wasn't an awful transfer
It's wasn't a awful transfer, if we have a 50% sell on clause, anything less and it's the biggest robbery since Ronnie Biggs and his mates boarded that train,
Simon Davey confirmed Hammill wouldn't have signed without the release clause in his contract. I believe Leeds were after him at the same time as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I don't think you can include Vaz Te in that list of players. He's still a Premiership player, or have I missed something?
