John Stones

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    please lets have a sell on clause... PLEASE

    no way will he be staying at Everton... so please god lets have a sell on clause... the sentence " we did not know how good he was" is haunting me right now.
     
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    Re: please lets have a sell on clause... PLEASE

    You spin me right round dragon
    Right round like a RECORD dragon
    Right round,round round
     
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    Imagine you were patrick Cryne right now. You've funded this team for years. Your first real saleable asset and you miss out on millions because don rowing tells you 2.2m is good business. You have missed most games as you've been fighting for both your life and your freedom.

    And we feel sick as fans. Imagine what that man feels!!!
     
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    seriously fella

    he has gone to a second rate prem club... for a knock down price... the number seven interview that Dyson set up revealed they had no Idea how good he was ... in fact they had no idea how good any player was/is/could be. This is why I suspect we will have a very poor sell on clause if indeed any at all.
     
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    6th best passer of a football in Europe. Kinel.
     
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    If he only took the advice of one man then he's a fool. Sorry but The Don isn't solely to blame for the Stones transfer shambles.
     
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    They took the easy money. Simple as that. Anybody believing this nonsense about not knowing his worth etc really will believe owt. They feared relegation, and thus sold him at the first sign of interest.
     
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    I agree. But I'm just pointing out we forget how much worse it must feel if it were your own millions you'd lost out on. Patrick pays a lot of people a lot of money.

    Perhaps he took the wrong advice. But still he's lost out on millions. That has to sting. Enough to hopefully realise you need to get full whack for your players. Something don rowing, for all the hard work etc he did NEVER could do. Let's wait and see if Ben can.
     
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    The Don isn't to blame at all.
     
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    Was don not running the football club in PC's absence?
     
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    I'm leaning towards agreeing here Andy. There were aborigines in the most remote parts of the Australian outback and tribes in the deepest darkest depths of the Amazonian rain forest who knew how good Stones was. For an intelligent man to expect us to believe his 'we didn't know who good he was' assertions is a bit of an insult.
     
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    There were people at the time saying we did ok for an 18 year old with a handful of championship games. Admitadly that was when we thought it was £3.5m or whatever.
     
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    He wasn't authorised to make the big decisions though. Her even said that people would be sick if/when people found out the real fee.

    Flicker is more culpable than The Don and what was Barry Taylor doing while all this was going on?
     
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    Proof?

    Are you saying PC is lying?
     
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    ^^^^this obvs as the young uns might say^^^^^
     
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    I thought £3M for him was understandable at the time. And whilst now in hindsight I feel we could have got more, it's not that so much which annoys me. It's this idea that Patrick and everyone at the club didn't know how valuable an asset Stones was. This despite the amount of times both Keith and Flicker talked him up as though he'd go on to be the best young defender in the country. Which he has done. And the fact that Hassell, Foster and Steele all said similar. And, having heard an interview with Branson a while back, he also stated that John was the best talent they'd produced and clearly bound for the top.

    So whilst I don't think the first suggested fee of £3M was that shabby, I do find it shabby that we're being told nobody at the club knew how good he was. It's my opinion we took the money to plug gaps in our finances, as we did with Vaz, Butterfield, Golbourne etc etc. If someone can tell me of a time under this owner where we've turned down bids for a player or whatever, I'm all ears/eyes.
     
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    dont get me going again - ive just about calmed down after the No.7 incident. lol
     
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    I think he played a role in the transfer.
     
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    Most people thought we were mugged all along. Most of us could see we were selling a young player with the potential to be the best defender of his generation. Other clubs would have got significantly more under exactly the same circumstances.
     
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