Just got back. I feel sick.

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  1. BRF

    BRF Well-Known Member

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    We just make the same mistakes over and over and for some reason we expect different results.

    We're not an unlucky side - just get exactly what we deserve out of ninety minutes of football.

    First half we were poor - started slowly and looked tired. It was very much like Forest again - for the first 45 minutes today we were not at the races and failed to cause them any problems at all. We created nothing meaningful. They looked lively up front for the first forty-five. How can we expect to win games if we only turn up for forty-five minutes?

    Second half we came to life when Hamill came on - that lad had an outstanding game and everything meaningful was created by him. Unfortunately Davey took Bogdanovic off for him. So although we were creating crosses all of a sudden - who was there to attack them? Mifsud is not a striker who is going to attack crosses and win headers. Macken finished his chance with aplomb. Really nice goal. We dominated the half from there on - but again, without really creating much or troubling their keeper (reliving the experience of Derby). Hamill put a lovely cross in for Odejayi - who did everything right and brought a great save out of their keeper. Other than that, we can't feel hard done by, because we didn't carve them open (despite dominating the possession). We all hoped like hell for a 1-0 win and we were the better side.

    We seemed to tire, and started to invite them on in the last ten minutes, sorry but the goal was a goal keeping error because Muller came but didn't get it.

    For ninety minutes we looked like the same old Davey side - clueless in the final third, disorganised, and incapable of creating decent chances (even though we broke in an exciting fashion, kept the ball nicely, and Hamill looked like a player worth millions of pounds). The coordination inside the box is pretty dreadful. We still see strikers drifting into wide positions, instead of breaking their necks to get into the six yard box.

    The fans were magnificent today. Absolutely magnificent. The disappointment was crushing when the equaliser went in.

    Again I left the ground only to encounter an opponent's fan saying into a phone 'we didn't deserve anything today'. Trouble is, as with every week, we didn't convert our dominance into chances, and we didn't make our dominance count on the score board, so when the inevitable came, and Watford got their turn, they were able to overturn our fragile lead and take a point they shouldn't have got. Another game thrown away because we don't know how to score goals when we have a team under the cosh.

    We now (for me) have four points to find from five games, that includes Wolves and Reading - so realistically four points from three games. We must win at home on Monday.

    Davey out.
     
  2. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Well I think you went to the same game as me

    except I thought that both sides were poor first half - and Andersson missed a free header putting it wide when he should at least have tested their keeper

    Even by Daveys standards taking Boggy off for Hammil was just bizarre
     
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    First half was one of the poorest I've seen in a long time - from both sides, playing head tennis for much of the time.

    We opened up better in the 2nd half, especially after Hammill came on for Bogdanovic. He whipped in several excellent crosses, and showed his usual trickery trying to beat his man. Macken took his goal well, hitting a cross first time from close in. Kayode came on, and from another Hammill cross he headed at the far pos; We thought it would go in, but the goalkeeper saved very well.

    Not sure about their goal, at the far end, but it loked like Heinz might have spilled it. I know he was disgusted at conceding because he seemed to belt the ball over the stand roof.
     
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    if we survive

    and we don't have Hammill and to a lesser extent Andranik next season, then I can't see us battling the drop, we'll be the Charlton of next year, cut adrift. Hammill was embarrassingly better than everyone out there today by a mile or ten. Don't think Watford knew who he was as he had free reign, when teams cotton on to what he is he'll find life tougher.
     
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    For someone who ain't seen em win away in nearly 3 years, i wor quite pleased.</p>

    Yes, another silly mistake cost us but summert wor salvaged. Just a shame that the rest of the results haven't gone reight.</p>

    Must, must beat Swansea nar though...
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    Not long since back and that's pretty much how I feel as well. Ordinarily I would agree with a lot of people tonight that a draw is a good result, against anyone, away from home.

    But we are running out of games and, looking at the fixtures, I'd identified today as one where we were capable of getting one of the two wins we needed. And so it proved - Watford were absolute ***** and were there for the taking, but again, we chucked it. We cannot hold onto a lead and we cannot finish a team off.

    The first half was so devoid of any threat from either side it would have been preferable if we'd gone to Tesco for a pasty beforehand and got stuck in a queue at the till. The second was much better when Hammill came on.

    The equaliser was down to Muller's complete **** up - what the **** was he doing?. After having absolutely nothing to do all game, to go and chuck it at that point with his one meaningful contribution must have gone down a treat with the rest of them in the dressing room.

    But the tactics were beyond belief again - To drop Colace to accomodate a wide player, and make that player Bogdanavic after Hammill's contribution on Tuesday night is just beyond woeful.

    And then, when Hammill does comes on, to bring Bogdanavic off when he is the one capable of getting on the end of them if moved in the middle, where he should have been all along, and when Mifsud, again, was very ineffectual - well it just defied belief, and I'd love to hear him try and explain that one. I'm sure he thinks he's just cleverer than the rest of us and can use his certificates to changes things in ways others wouldn't have thought of.

    Its decisions like that that justify why he has to go, whether we stay up or not. Yes, it was Muller who made the ricket in the end, but Davey has cost us the game in my opinion - again. Its bloody simple really - just play your best team!. If he'd got the right players, in the right positions, from the start we'd have had a chance of playing for 90 minutes instead of 45, and would have won that game by a street.

    It's so frustrating......

    We still need 5 points in my opinion, which means winning 2, or 1 win and 2 draws from 5 games - and I don't now know which games are going to give us them. If you rule out Reading and Wolves that leaves us no more room for error in the other 3. I fear that if we don't win on Monday we are going down. I can't understand why there are so many laid back people on here tonight.

    Pissed off. :( :( :(
     
  7. bfc

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    Well said, i really do think we are the team that drops like a stone and ends up relegated at the end of the season. Its been coming for weeks no months and still people believe that its not the managers fault, i just dont get it.
     
  8. Farnham_Red

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    6 points from the last 5 matches isnt dropping like a stone

    The thing which is frustrating is all 3 of those draws were games there for the taking - even winning one of them would put us within touching distance of safety. I just worry that Davey may be thinking 5 more draws will do it
     
  9. madmark62

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    I think I put something like that on when we had about 14-15 games left!

    I said something lijke the only way we will get another 15 points is if we get all draws.


    sorry , but I didnt think Davey would have taken me seriously. :'(
     
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    I think he goes into every game whether it be against wolves or charlton thinking "How can we not lose this game" rather than "How can we win this game". Come Plymouth i think we will need to win so his hand will be forced and when we play our strongest 4-4-2 with Jamal and Hammil on the flanks we will give anybody a game, just wish he would go for it in every game from now until the end.
     
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    I hope he plays.

    Hammill and Devaney to be honest. JCR is not pulling any trees up and should be dropped.
     
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    He wont even be thinking that, he just stumbles from one result to another.
     

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