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  1. AIR

    AIRTyke New Member

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    All this hullabaloo about selling land and building houses.  There's nothing on the official site and I can't see a link from here.  I need to work out for missen if Jay or Windy are right.  Cheers in advance.</p>
     
  2. E.I. Addio

    E.I. Addio Well-Known Member

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    Hello Ace!

    you contracting yet?
     
  3. AIR

    AIRTyke New Member

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    Yeah

    Contracting every 30 seconds, 5cm dilated.  </p>


    Am I chuff, still waiting to hear if I get VR.  Not looking good.  Key skills you see (bit like your educated left foot).  </p>

    So where's this land thingy news thing?</p>
     
  4. E.I. Addio

    E.I. Addio Well-Known Member

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    It's in the Chron apparently...

    ... so it's fact then.
     
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    Cambridge Red Well-Known Member

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  6. AIR

    AIRTyke New Member

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    I missed that

    Thanks CR.
     
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    EastStander Active Member

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    Damn upgrades on work PC's

    Lost my cookies and don't know my log in for main site
     
  8. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

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    Is he speaking there as chairman of BFC or director of Oakwell Community Assets Ltd?
     
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    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

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    The article in full from The Chronicle

    Chronicle exclusive, written by Dave Knight


    Housing bid for Oakwell car parks

    The owners of Oakwell are planning to build houses on large parts of the car parks surrounding the ground.

    Oakwell Community Assets (OCA), jointly owned by Barnsley Council and the club's benefactor millionaire Patrick Cryne, has submitted two applications to the council.

    It wants outline permission for residential developments on the bottom half of the main car park behind the Ponty Road end and on the overspill car park between Grove Street and Queen's Road.

    The Chronicle understands that any money generated would be ploughed back into the stadium. Improvements on rundown West Stand - part of which is closed for safety reasons - and a bar in the Enterprise Stand are possibilities.

    It is also believed that if the scheme is given the go ahead, a further parcel of land beyond the fencing behind the East Stand near Beevor Court could be developed into offices.

    But the news has angered residents, many of whom say the area cannot cope with the levels of traffic on match day.

    Oakwell is one of the areas identified for a residential parking permit scheme several years ago because of the football traffic problems, but that is unlikely to be introduced for some time.
    Grove Street resident Sue Mason said the plans were unsuitable for the site.
    She said "I am immensely unhappy. It is horrendous around here on match days, and this is only going to make it worse."

    Councellor. Don Hutton (Lib. Dem.) added "I can't believe that in an area so densely populated, they want to build more houses on a car park. There is not a blade of grass in the area around Grove Street school. They are building a school at Piper's Cottage to replace Grove Street, but what are they going to do with the old one? Have a guess. I would say housing."

    Former owner Peter Doyle, who wanted to develop land at Oakwell when he was in charge, also criticised the plans.

    Mr Doyle, who said at the time he would "sweat the assets" of the club, described this week's move as despicable.
    He said " When I was at the club, I wanted to develop some of its land to get it back on its feet. I was told there was no way. Someone is trying to get this scheme through quietly in the hope that no-one will notice."

    Barnsley Chairman Gordon Shepherd said the land in question was not needed by the club and would be put to better use by being developed.
    He said " I think this scheme would be a benefit to the club and its fans. Barnsley has massive amounts of car parking. It would be nice to turn a little of the surplus assets into something useful for the club."

    He added that he believed OCA's board of Directors would use any revenue raised on enhancing the stadium and grounds and that it would be in their interests to do so.

    It is understood the board would see investing back in the stadium as in their long-term interest.

    The plans received a cautious welcome from Barnsley Supporters' Trust chairman Alan Bloore, on the proviso that any money raised went back into the club.
    He said " Losing the car parks would not be ideal, but if it is for the benefit of the club, then we will accept it."

    No-one from the council was available for comment.
     
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    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

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    From Official site

    OWNERS of Oakwell, Oakwell Community Assets - a partnership between Barnsley Council and Patrick Cryne - have submitted two planning applications for residential developments around the stadium.

    Commenting on the plans, Barnsley Football Club chairman Gordon Shepherd told the Barnsley Chronicle: "I think this scheme would be a benefit to the club and to its fans. Compared to other clubs, Barnsley has massive amounts of car parking.

    "It would be nice to turn a little of the surplus assets into something useful for the club".
     
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    Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    Using Google Earth its about 3 acres that are in question

    Not seen the outline plans but my very rough estimates are:</p>

    about 1/3rd of grove street car park. This area would likely stand about a 40 apartment developement (like that on old lowfields dairy)  @ 110k each selling price.</p>

    The area of the away car park would likely stand 30 houses @ 150k each.</p>

    Gives about 9m less developement costs. (50 -60%??) may eventually yield about 3.5m for council &amp; cryne (club holdings)</p>

    Developing the area of the away car park would allow access to land at the rear of the metrodome upon which the council could perhaps get another 40 or so houses on?</p>

    Club will likely expand parking at the rear of the ground to mitigate the parking losses??</p>
     
  12. EastStander

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    Thanks for that Crystal
     
  13. Gue

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    RE: Using Google Earth its about 3 acres that are in question

    Add to that the garage and its land, which is used for match day parking,on Pontefract Road. I believe the council are close to sealing that deal.
     
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    did Sue Mason of Grove Street not.......

    .......think when she bought the house that it might be quite busy in the area on match days?
     
  15. Gue

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    RE: did Sue Mason of Grove Street not.......

    Like the people who buy houses near airports!
     
  16. AIR

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    Ta Crystal.
     
  17. EastStander

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    RE: did Sue Mason of Grove Street not.......

    People near airports - didn't complain about the proximity to the airport when it meant they didn't have to pay as much for the house than if it had been located well away from the airport.
     

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