Just out of interest (not a dig). How much do teachers get paid per working hour??

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  1. rot

    rothred Active Member

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    For instance an admin worker might get paid &pound;20,000 per annum for a 40 hr week</p>

    thats equates to &pound;20,000 divided by 52 weeks, divided by 40hrs = &pound;9.61 per hr </p>

    but if you subtract five weeks holiday (including stat hols) where they are not actually working</p>

    its works out at &pound;20,000 divided by 47 divided by 40 = &pound;10.63 per hour worked</p>

    What does a teachers rate of pay per worked hourcome out at?</p>
     
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    Y Goch Well-Known Member

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    define working hour?

    The trouble is that most teachers work many long hours after school and in the 'holidays' so how do you calculate this.

    My contract as a uni lecturer is illegal, in that it has no defined hours or holidays.
    But they know we will work longer than 9 to 5 and will not vanish all summer (honest)
     
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    rothred Active Member

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    thought i'd just done that...

    you'll find in most walks of life that the more you get paid the more unpaid hours youwill put in. It goes with the territory. Just wondering where they sit in the salary scale and whether they are doing somethingthatmost folks on their pay rate aren't.</p>
     
  4. Lon

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    I tried to work it out.......

    My missus is a newly qualified teacher in a class of 9 year olds where 8 of the lads already have asbo's.

    These calculations are approximate but I think with allowance for variations both ways are pretty fair.

    She's in work for 8 in a morning and leaves usually about 4.30 knock off eating a sandwich at dinner thats 8hrs
    She does roughly 2 hours per night marking and preparing lesson etc, and about 6 hours prep time over an average weekend.
    That adds up to about 56 hours / week.

    There are times of parents evenings, scout dyke, school shows, etc when it can be a lot more but I haven't counted any of that in.

    I've taken off 12 weeks "holiday" that they all alledgedly get. Though apart from our 2 week away in August and 1 week at christmas she's never had a full week off and done nothing for school to my knowledge yet, but I haven't counted any of them in these calculations.

    So 56 hrs/ week x 40 weeks = 2240 hrs / year

    Annual salery is £18500 so divide the hours by the pay and she's on £8.25 / hour.

    I believe its much less than that in reality, but don't believe anyone could argue the figures I've given.

    Personally I wouldn't get out of bed and take the s##t she does for that money but she wouldn't do anything else and its all she's ever wanted to do, but to be made to feel like a criminal for asking for her worth to the country to be properly recognise is rubbish.
     
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    But

    surely as she took the job on that pay then she knew that was 'her worth' and accepted it?
     
  6. Gue

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    Question doesn't make any sense...

    You may as well as "How much do people that work in shops get paid per hour?"

    There are hundreds of different positions within the basic 'teacher' framework who all get paid different wages. Depending on the size of the school you're at it can be different as well. The senior managerial team are in more of a management than a teaching role, so they get paid (sort of) a fair wage for somebody running a multi-million pound company, but they're still teachers.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the problem as it stands, and the reason for striking, is that the raises they get aren't covering inflation. In real terms, teachers and other public sector workers are getting paid less year on year.

    (So am I, as it happens - especially when you take into account Cuddly Mr Brown's abolition of the 10% tax rate - but as my firm got bought by a private equity company last year that's to be expected) :)
     
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    Like I said......

    Its all she's ever wanted to do and yes she knew the pay, but in all honesty she didn't realise the full extent of what is expected paperwork wise etc.
    When the government and society in general expect teachers to be all things to all children, to pay them
    £8.25 / hour when she could get £ 7.00 on the tills in Tesco's is a bit demoralising.
    You've only got to read some of the comments on here to realise what some of the general public think of the teaching profession.

    Having said all that she won't be looking for a new job in the foreseeable future, she loves what she doe's.
     
  8. Gue

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    The key factor here is also trying to attract the top quality graduates to the profession - if the job is paid peanuts then you're not going to attract the real high-fliers with real talent and ambition. Surely our kids deserve the best and, therefore, the salary needs to be at alevel that will attract the best? I have enormous repsect for people like Longfella's missis who clearly regards the profession as a calling and something she'd be happy doing whatever the salary. Sadly the world is not populated by these types and teachers need to be paid a fair salary that puts them on a par in terms of repsect with doctors and lawyers.
     
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    My mate's a teacher.

    All he does is sit in the class with his feet up, he has 51 weeks holiday a year and he earns a million billion pounds a month.

    There. That should do it.
     
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    That's unbelievable!

    You have a mate?
     
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    doctors, lawyers, teachers...

    hmm

    Comparable? perhaps for some.

    Looks to me like they can get a very good pay packet if they progress in their careers

    http://www.atl.org.uk/atl_en/pay/pay_calc/teachers/maintained/payscalesschool.asp

    And lets not forget a bloody better pension than the majority of people with potential to retire at 55 when most people will be working their arses off till they drop.
     
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    Still better paid than nursing

    whatever the level of seniority
     
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    30k per annum minimum at our local primary school

    for a full time equivalent
     

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