Just watched the highlights on the FL show

That was never a penalty, Shotton did have a hand on there player but Steele had comfortably got the ball before there lad dropped to the floor. There was no where near enough contact to warrant there plyer going down, you can blame the referee but it was the dishonest striker who robbed us today, even if we should have had a penalty ourselves.

 

i cant understand why no one is moaning about him being off side in the first place

 

definite pen imho

terrible defending from our right back/right winger for their second. completely unmarked.

 

RE: definite pen imho

Yep, pen to me when saw it last night. You put your hands around a player like that you're asking for trouble

 

Exactly

 

still in 2 minds haynes never appealed or nowt soon as ball went to steele he just held is head

 

Most other refs would have given it. Any contact in the box and the striker is likely to go down.

 

What has Steele getting the ball before the player fell got to do with it. Might help the fouling player stay on the pitch but it's still a foul.

 

Have not seen it on the tv but at the time I thought it was a stone wall penalty. Unless the Bristol Striker slipped why the hell would he dive, he was in the position to score and win the match!

 

Maynard made the most of it, but he did pull him back by the arm I think

I was more annoyed with our players as they stood around watching after Steele superbly saved the penalty. Shocking.

 

Lets put this to bed once and for all. Good view from east stand lower back row. This was NO PENALTY. The ball spun off the attackers shin and into arms of Steele. Hence no goal scoring opportunity denied. As Steele is collecting the ball, Shotton then attempts to tackle the attacker. BC players do not protest and I believe are astounded when the ref gives a pen. No way was the attacker at fault for diving etc as he was stumbling. The ref got it wrong for the second time in the match - end of. If every laying of hands on a player resulted in a penalty, there should be a penalty at every corner kick taken.
By the way this view is based on what I saw at the actual match and not my opinion based on tv footage because I have not seen any.

 

I didn't think it was a pen at the match, and having seen the footage on TV I still don't. The ref has given it because Shotton's arm went across him, not because said arm actually caused the player to fall. I said at the time he only went down because he'd overrun in, maybe it was a dive, maybe it was just his momentum, but I don't think it was due to the minimal contact from Shotton.

That said, my Dad was sat right next to me and said it was a blatant pen, so obviously opinions differ!

Shotton was extremely unlucky to see red for it, but if the boot was on the other foot we'd be howling for the player to be sent off in the same situation. If he gives the pen, he has to send the player off. In the end it was a daft pen which ended a fightback I thought might see us take at least a point, and Shotton needs to learn from the experience - he's only a kid remember.

More importantly, if Dickinson had reacted quicker to the rebound and got there before Elliott we'd have still got a point.

As for the other one... I had a Brizzle supporting mate in the other end who said there's no way the cross hit their players arm, but if it did and the linesman gave it, then the ref completely bottled it by giving a free kick - it was yards inside the box.

 

It did it his arm. Between block 5 to 6 and from 6 to the end where going f**king crazy.

 

Agreed

if it was a foul then it is a penalty, but the red card is for denying a goal scoring opportunity which as the ball was in Steele's hands iy didn't. Very poor officials.

 

I'm not sure it matters about the striker losing the ball

Also on MOTD, Wolves got a penalty when their attacker toe poked to the ball to his team-mate (so he achieved what he was trying to do), then got clattered by his opponent. The result was a Penalty. No-one is going to argue with the decision, because he was fouled.

Yesterday, Shotton fouled his man, so what happened to the ball is irrelevant. You are quite correct, that it wasn't a goal scoring opportunity, because the goalie had the ball...

 

Would you say that the attacker was

fouled by a tackle or impeded in making progress by the defender. If the second is the case, then it is an indirect freekick according to the laws of the game.

 

well it affects the decision about the sending off - if he didn't have the ball it's not preventing a goal scoring opportunity

 

See QPR vs Derby...penalty given away, soft at that and no card. nt

 

You know as well as I do Redstar referees are no different to members on this board. We perceive,interpret and express our bias individually of one another and the man in the middle was no different. It's unfortunate however about the moron on Saturday though because I am wholly convinced he was purely corrupt, predjudial and out to create havoc.